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Old 8 Apr 2018, 10:45 (Ref:3813944)   #61
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I enjoy the tech side of F1 and admire the F1 techs, but I also miss simple things like these:



.... rather than the need for a squad of engineers with laptops to perform that function.

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Old 8 Apr 2018, 12:38 (Ref:3813971)   #62
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Old 9 Apr 2018, 01:48 (Ref:3814252)   #63
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Old 9 Apr 2018, 04:38 (Ref:3814276)   #64
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Old 9 Apr 2018, 09:24 (Ref:3814325)   #65
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fattest heaviest most over priced engine in F1 history.


That picture is the tombstone of a once great sport!
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Old 9 Apr 2018, 10:15 (Ref:3814329)   #66
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It looks quite good to me
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Old 9 Apr 2018, 10:16 (Ref:3814330)   #67
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Interesting question. I hardly ever post on here these days, but I joined when I was probably 15, and my peak F1 interest was probably between 1999-2006
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Old 9 Apr 2018, 23:41 (Ref:3814549)   #68
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fattest heaviest most over priced engine in F1 history.
That picture is the tombstone of a once great sport!
Eye of the beholder etc.
I see around 1000hp delivered as a driveable package from an ICE, KERS and MGUH at a previously unachievable energy recovery level around 50%

I also see the possibility of the continuation of research into power units not tied to an electricity grid.

Even more I see research into motoring independent of the march towards Artificial Intelligence becoming so dominant because of that tie to the grid that the driver becomes "road use irrelevant" in the future.

Here endeth the rant
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Old 10 Apr 2018, 10:03 (Ref:3814616)   #69
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I joined in 2004 and I am (for a few days still) 39. Oldest memories of F1 are newspaper articles about Johansson and Alboreto having a 1, 2 for Ferrari very late in the 87 season and have always been a Ferrari fan.

I am very torn int erms of what should be the technological pinnacle of racing and the racing pinnacle. Old DTM (late 80s, early 90s) were spectacular with great racing. Group C were spectacular machinery, as is current LMP1 (btw: Porsche just beat Hamilton's laptime at Spa with a modified 919). I love the technical complexity of the current engine regs and I believe downgrading is a wrong move.

At the same time I want good racing back without DRS. Only: what is good racing. There were many many races in the last 30 years without good racing even in the haydays of that time. And then there were per year 1 or 2 good races with possibly only 5 good laps that remain in our heads forever and let us say "remember the days".

I would venture a guess that Sunday's nailbiter could go down as one of those races as well.

All in all: I am not connvinced we are in such a bad spot as many say except for (financial) sustainability.
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Old 13 Apr 2018, 11:27 (Ref:3815184)   #70
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Iím 23, joined the forum in 2009 which means...bloody hell, Iíve been on here since I was 14!!!

Iíve been hooked since being taken to Le Mans aged 4. I immediately came back and rinsed my dadís VHS collection which included taped Murray Walker-commentated Grand Prix from the late 80s and early 90, lots of WSC reviews, BTCC reviews...

My idea of what F1 and motorsport should be is a weird mix. I bizarrely feel like the late Ď80s is Ďmyí era, despite not even being alive at the time. I guess it proves that the 1980s genuinely were awesome, and itís not rose-tinted spectacles.

It really annoys me when old white men feel like they speak for my generation. They talk like weíre social-media obsessed textaholics who can barely look up from our phones for 10 seconds.

Motorsport is killing itself in a half-hearted attempt to attract these people that Iím not sure really exist.

In the class I teach last year, in year 6 (ages 10-11), I did a Le Mans-themed week in the build up to the race in our morning routine. I was amazed to discover the following Monday that one of the girls whoíd been exhibiting some of the most challenging behavior all year had watched 7 hours of coverage over the weekend and could even tell me the winners of LMP2 and GTE-Pro.

This wasnít some middle-class primary school in Motorsport Valley. I teach in one of the most deprived areas of London in a class that is 95% Muslim and 68% donít speak English as a first language.

Do you know why she watched so much? Itís because I made it sound exciting. Do you know how crazy it sounds to a kid that they race cars that look like space ships all day and all night without stopping? No mention of selfies or twitter of Snapchat or any of that crap. I told my kids about it, and they watched it.

Sadly, my class is excluded from F1 and most of motorsport. When I was a kid, I could watch F1 and a host of other series on Grandstand on BBC, International Motorsport on ITV, and F3 and GTs on C4 with just the four terrestrial channels.

Most of motorsport is completely out of bounds to anyone who can not afford the most expensive television packages. My generation and below, the Ďmillenialsí, have one thing in common - we have less disposable income than our parents and less spare time to spend it. Itís a crowded world of entertainment out there, and motorsport will be quickly forgotten if itís expensive to follow it from your living room.
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Old 13 Apr 2018, 12:17 (Ref:3815192)   #71
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Iím 23, joined the forum in 2009 which means...bloody hell, Iíve been on here since I was 14!!!

Iíve been hooked since being taken to Le Mans aged 4. I immediately came back and rinsed my dadís VHS collection which included taped Murray Walker-commentated Grand Prix from the late 80s and early 90, lots of WSC reviews, BTCC reviews...

My idea of what F1 and motorsport should be is a weird mix. I bizarrely feel like the late Ď80s is Ďmyí era, despite not even being alive at the time. I guess it proves that the 1980s genuinely were awesome, and itís not rose-tinted spectacles.

It really annoys me when old white men feel like they speak for my generation. They talk like weíre social-media obsessed textaholics who can barely look up from our phones for 10 seconds.

Motorsport is killing itself in a half-hearted attempt to attract these people that Iím not sure really exist.

In the class I teach last year, in year 6 (ages 10-11), I did a Le Mans-themed week in the build up to the race in our morning routine. I was amazed to discover the following Monday that one of the girls whoíd been exhibiting some of the most challenging behavior all year had watched 7 hours of coverage over the weekend and could even tell me the winners of LMP2 and GTE-Pro.

This wasnít some middle-class primary school in Motorsport Valley. I teach in one of the most deprived areas of London in a class that is 95% Muslim and 68% donít speak English as a first language.

Do you know why she watched so much? Itís because I made it sound exciting. Do you know how crazy it sounds to a kid that they race cars that look like space ships all day and all night without stopping? No mention of selfies or twitter of Snapchat or any of that crap. I told my kids about it, and they watched it.

Sadly, my class is excluded from F1 and most of motorsport. When I was a kid, I could watch F1 and a host of other series on Grandstand on BBC, International Motorsport on ITV, and F3 and GTs on C4 with just the four terrestrial channels.

Most of motorsport is completely out of bounds to anyone who can not afford the most expensive television packages. My generation and below, the Ďmillenialsí, have one thing in common - we have less disposable income than our parents and less spare time to spend it. Itís a crowded world of entertainment out there, and motorsport will be quickly forgotten if itís expensive to follow it from your living room.
An interesting post G4J, it's always good to hear the genuine thoughts & experiences of other generations. It also helps us old gits gain a more balanced view how how 'you' view things.
Well done for spreading the word to the next 'younger generation'. Like you, I was hooked from an early age, and although my interest is waning a bit nowadays, I am keen, but for the sport to continue, new blood needs to be interested too.
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Old 13 Apr 2018, 16:27 (Ref:3815236)   #72
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Interesting point about Le Mans. In my school on Wandsworth, they would post reports about qualifying on notice boards. Then after the race they posted race reports. Purely because one of the teachers was a fan.

And as to whether it is out of bounds to your students?

I come from a council house, one parent family. I've been racing cars for many years. Never say never.
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Iím 23, joined the forum in 2009 which means...bloody hell, Iíve been on here since I was 14!!!

Iíve been hooked since being taken to Le Mans aged 4. I immediately came back and rinsed my dadís VHS collection which included taped Murray Walker-commentated Grand Prix from the late 80s and early 90, lots of WSC reviews, BTCC reviews...

My idea of what F1 and motorsport should be is a weird mix. I bizarrely feel like the late Ď80s is Ďmyí era, despite not even being alive at the time. I guess it proves that the 1980s genuinely were awesome, and itís not rose-tinted spectacles.

It really annoys me when old white men feel like they speak for my generation. They talk like weíre social-media obsessed textaholics who can barely look up from our phones for 10 seconds.

Motorsport is killing itself in a half-hearted attempt to attract these people that Iím not sure really exist.

In the class I teach last year, in year 6 (ages 10-11), I did a Le Mans-themed week in the build up to the race in our morning routine. I was amazed to discover the following Monday that one of the girls whoíd been exhibiting some of the most challenging behavior all year had watched 7 hours of coverage over the weekend and could even tell me the winners of LMP2 and GTE-Pro.

This wasnít some middle-class primary school in Motorsport Valley. I teach in one of the most deprived areas of London in a class that is 95% Muslim and 68% donít speak English as a first language.

Do you know why she watched so much? Itís because I made it sound exciting. Do you know how crazy it sounds to a kid that they race cars that look like space ships all day and all night without stopping? No mention of selfies or twitter of Snapchat or any of that crap. I told my kids about it, and they watched it.

Sadly, my class is excluded from F1 and most of motorsport. When I was a kid, I could watch F1 and a host of other series on Grandstand on BBC, International Motorsport on ITV, and F3 and GTs on C4 with just the four terrestrial channels.

Most of motorsport is completely out of bounds to anyone who can not afford the most expensive television packages. My generation and below, the Ďmillenialsí, have one thing in common - we have less disposable income than our parents and less spare time to spend it. Itís a crowded world of entertainment out there, and motorsport will be quickly forgotten if itís expensive to follow it from your living room.
This post is absolutely beautiful.
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Somebody should send G4J's post to Liberty media.

How to make a big sport small, stuff it behind a paywall.

Alternative revenue streams, good luck with that!

P.S. My motor racing involvement and that of many of my peers started because entry for u15 kids was free, and boy did it catch on, future competitors, engineers, team owners, sponsors, and fans all came from these kids that were allowed in free.
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