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Old 1 Apr 2016, 13:53 (Ref:3629272)   #1
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New Aussie $240K 570 hp V8 single seater series? Yum. Will the turnout be bigger than F4?

http://www.speedcafe.com/2016/03/31/...gory-launched/

http://autoaction.com.au/formula-thu...04021419653102
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Old 1 Apr 2016, 20:06 (Ref:3629370)   #2
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I thought this was an April fool but it got announced yesterday!!

Looks good fun if it goes ahead.

More power than grip.... that should be the raison d'etre of any big single seater category.
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Old 2 Apr 2016, 14:06 (Ref:3629519)   #3
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I can see it working and attracting european drivers in the off-season, like the TRS does.
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Old 3 Apr 2016, 17:05 (Ref:3629915)   #4
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I thought this was an April fool but it got announced yesterday!!
I have my doubts... That kind of airbox has not been allowed in formula racing (at least F1) since 1976.
It could be April 1st when the note was released in Australia.
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Old 3 Apr 2016, 19:13 (Ref:3629949)   #5
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For 2 decades I have asked why can't we have a simple, straightforward formula series with V8 power? Not everyone has the interest, pre teen age or cash to be on the Formula 1 junior formula puppy mill.

Hopefully this works out.
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Old 3 Apr 2016, 19:56 (Ref:3629968)   #6
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Nice tove this series back
But the problem is the location. In Australia und New Zealand many formula series are struggling
Not Toyota Racing Series, but especially in Australia.
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Old 4 Apr 2016, 07:21 (Ref:3630090)   #7
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Which type of crankshaft will they use with the V8? Cross-plane? Makes more sense, since the displacement is 5 litres.
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Old 4 Apr 2016, 09:24 (Ref:3630117)   #8
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Which type of crankshaft will they use with the V8? Cross-plane? Makes more sense, since the displacement is 5 litres.
Yep, crossplane. The engine is available in flatplane but you introduce issues which require money to rectify with that setup, plus you lose the meaty sound they are after.


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It could be April 1st when the note was released in Australia.
Nope, it's all legit.
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Old 8 Apr 2016, 23:31 (Ref:3631321)   #9
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Will be interesting to see if F5000 translates to a modern chassis.In the '70s there was limited aero,no ground effects and slick tyres,they used to roar and slide around.
Could be a let down if thier just another class of car going around with little point of difference from the other current formula's.
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Old 10 Nov 2018, 05:10 (Ref:3862099)   #10
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We are still waiting on this class (now called S5000) to release it's calendar and final-issue chassis, which now takes the form of a halo-equipped 2018 Ligier JS Formula 3 tub fitted with the Coyote V8, local Hollinger gearbox and larger tyres and wings. https://www.motorsport.com/au/genera...00-car/374261/

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flatplane but you introduce issues which require money to rectify with that setup, plus you lose the meaty sound they are after.
Interestingly, you seem to get some of the throaty sound back by fitting a X-pipe to a flatplane V8. For instance, this Ferrari: https://youtu.be/tap6r-SH9tw?t=353

So it wouldn't be out of the question for the class to switch to a lightweight 116kg Judd racing V8 (instead of the 195kg Coyote production car engine) and get the "thunder" back by a combination of X-pipe and/or unequal length headers (such as what the Shelby GT350 uses, and why it rumbles somewhat even though it has a flatplane V8).

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Could be a let down if thier just another class of car going around with little point of difference from the other current formula's.
It has a point of difference: the production-based V8 engine, that is both durable and relatively affordable! Quite a contrast to the 1.6L and 2.0L with or without turbo engines used in other affordable open-wheel classes.

The compromise, of course, is that the engine is very heavy compared to a V8 engine designed specifically for racing (like the Mechachrome GP2 engine, or Honda or Toyota IRL & Formula Nippon engines etc).

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Old 10 Nov 2018, 07:50 (Ref:3862106)   #11
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Elvis might return sooner than this class ever turns a wheel.
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Old 13 Nov 2018, 10:54 (Ref:3863003)   #12
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How many cars have been sold ? As a point of difference open it up to any local racing car manufacturer ie to race against one another !
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How many cars have been sold ?
No information on that, but at least one car has been delivered and had an engine installed for testing. Don't know if it's actually hit the track, but given that this happened in September, I would hope it has.

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As a point of difference open it up to any local racing car manufacturer ie to race against one another !
Good luck getting the local manufacturers to build cars that can meet FIA regulations(which was the entire reason for dumping both the FT5000 and Super5000 cars) AND be competitive against the Onroak chassis without being maddeningly expensive.
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Old 13 Nov 2018, 13:27 (Ref:3863030)   #14
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I wondered why it has taken so long for this series to get off the ground - from memory wasn't the original car unveiled on April Fool's day 2016 ? And regarding my second point , yes I do realise the likelihood of any new series to be multi-marque is less than remote . Out of interest how many Australian racing car manufacturers are still manufacturing racing cars ? I can only think of Formula Ford manufacturer Spectrum .
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Old 13 Nov 2018, 15:01 (Ref:3863057)   #15
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lack of interests and money.
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