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16 Jul 2005, 00:59 (Ref:1356609)
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A third manufacturer..
Don’t be too fooled by the heading. But recent whispers suggest that a third manufacturer may be entering the V8Supercar category as early as next season, not as a manufacturer of their brand as a V8Supercar though, but as a sponsor of a current V8Supercar.
Put this into perspective for just a second; a Holden or Ford painted and stickered into another manufacturers colours, with their brand across the window and across the rear door/quarter panel. The more influenced "punters" still know it’s a Holden or a Ford, but this brand is still receiving masses of exposure out of their one car team. Let’s say they've secured a level one driver, car and team for a one car assault on the 06 championship and they come out winning the first round at the Clipsal 500. The media make a large hype with various headlines and images in print nationwide, great exposure and publicity which inturn aids the 3rd manufacturer to sell cars on monday. And to the manufacturer, just another way to advertise… A serious possibility, which may happen sooner, rather than later... |
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16 Jul 2005, 01:07 (Ref:1356611)
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It did happen already... Hyundai branding appeared on the TKR car some of last year... and the folks at Holden went into a demented funk....
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16 Jul 2005, 02:07 (Ref:1356624)
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And that was only Hyundai earthmoving equipment - a market Holden's not in.
Yeah - I can just see a Ford with big "Mazda" signs. Actually - it sorta makes sense - Ford owns a chunk of Mazda. So you could have all those corporate tie-ups represented - Ford with Mazda, Volvo, Jaguar, Aston-Martin. Holden (GM) with Chevrolet, Pontiac, Subaru, Daewoo and Buick - nah, never happen. Again. Kramer |
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16 Jul 2005, 03:59 (Ref:1356644)
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I read something a while back about this.
The reason holden were jumping up and down over the TKR car was because there is something in the rule book somewhere stating that another manufacturer is not allowed to sponsor a car. TKR had "HYUNDAI" written down the side of the car - it looked like it was Hyundai the car manufacturer, but in actual fact it was Hyundai Construction Equipment. Mark Porters Ford this year is sponsored by Hyundai Construction Equipment, and has THAT written down the side - even though they didn't want it there (looks prettier as just Hyundai) I might be wrong, but I did read about this rule a few years ago... Surely Toyota would have jumped onto the band wagon a few years ago and promoted its Lexcen then wouldn't it?? |
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16 Jul 2005, 05:31 (Ref:1356661)
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In hindsight its no different to Rick Kelly being in Buick brand at Eastern Creek and China earlier this year, but slightly different...
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16 Jul 2005, 06:32 (Ref:1356671)
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Let another manufacturer back a car, confuse the public, then to stop the farce apply common sense and allow some other manufacturers to compete with their own products..........
Surely AVESCO/TEGA/CAMS whoever can't tell teams now who can and can't sponsor, but i guess AVESCO is now picking drivers for the series, rather than the competing teams...... |
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16 Jul 2005, 06:57 (Ref:1356678)
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Possible entries...
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16 Jul 2005, 11:13 (Ref:1356746)
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17 Jul 2005, 06:35 (Ref:1357092)
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17 Jul 2005, 08:19 (Ref:1357111)
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Personally i think if another manufacturer tried an idea as suggest in post #1, the local media would absolutely slaughter then for trying to ride on Ford or Holdens success.
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17 Jul 2005, 09:26 (Ref:1357132)
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The local media are hilarious... did anyone else notice the ad for the Sydney Morning Herald with the navigator in Neal Bates' Corolla rally car reading their sports section?
A pity that newspaper virtually ignores rallying in this country!!! |
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17 Jul 2005, 09:40 (Ref:1357140)
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Cant say i have, but if it was anything like when the guys from the Footy Show took a ride in an STi in Canberra its sure to be good
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17 Jul 2005, 13:19 (Ref:1357210)
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I wouldn't be surprised to see the "away races" increase from a maximum of 4 to 10 or 12 away races and the creation of a totally international series with drivers from Saudi, China, Malaysia , USA, Europe etc.
I could see Tony Cochrane aiming for something like that. He dosent care where the money comes from. The best teams will compete in this series and Toyota and Chrysler will probably get a look in. The Ford- Holden rivalry will remain in tact with racing in a separate Australian only series maintaining a similar format to what has been run for the last few years...minus China. |
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18 Jul 2005, 07:43 (Ref:1357572)
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Bring back the Toyota Lexcen!!!!
HRT used to be sponsored by Yamaha too remember. At least one team is sponsored by Mercedes Trucks - or used to be. Mitsubishi Electric has been a racing sponsor in the past. Usually Magna proddie cars though. Ahh shut up Jonesy. A thornier question might be, what does Holden do if the Focus ARC project is a wild success? So I guess in the meantime It's Go the Buick Royaum! Royaum? You're kiddin' right? btw - GTR - love the Av. I wonder where the piccies came from  You want some more, cause you didn't take the best Cam Mac Beemer shot I've got?
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18 Jul 2005, 07:57 (Ref:1357583)
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doesnt yamaha still sponsor HRT, or is it just todd kelly??
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18 Jul 2005, 08:21 (Ref:1357592)
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18 Jul 2005, 10:25 (Ref:1357648)
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And lets not forget a few years back the BJR OzEmail Falcons carried signage from Volvo.....Trucks.
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18 Jul 2005, 10:55 (Ref:1357666)
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Or, what about DJR?
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18 Jul 2005, 11:09 (Ref:1357673)
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Ive been saying this for ages.
Let there be a V8 Supercar Australian Series - Which runs through our summer. This means you can have twilight races and assured better whether. The Finale of the International Season, and the Opening Round of the Australian Season will be Bathurst. Then you go through to April with the Clipsal 500 in April being the Season Finale. You then run the International Series during the cooler months. From April through to September. The Australian Series remains Ford v Holden, and the International Series allows any manufacturer that makes a car inside of the rules. This approach would increase the spectators at Australian Rounds due to better weather, and races co-inciding with annual leave the majority of australians take in summer, and the increased levels of public holidays. In terms of TV viewing, Channel Seriously will not have any clashes with Football, and be able to show more of the Australian Series on TV. Any viewpoints on this ? |
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18 Jul 2005, 11:20 (Ref:1357678)
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18 Jul 2005, 11:40 (Ref:1357686)
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Yes and No. Subaru ownes a few shares in Gm, therefore, GM owns only a small bit of Subaru. Or, what about Fiat, don't GM own that car company?
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18 Jul 2005, 13:42 (Ref:1357782)
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no no they paid fiat to get out of that contract ...
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18 Jul 2005, 14:21 (Ref:1357812)
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Looking back to the first post in this thread, there are a few teams without significant manufacturer support who I am sure would be quite happy to rock the boat, and stick it up the establishment (yet again) by running in the colours of an alternative manufacturer, in return for $$$$. Dynamik, WPS, Tratty, any others?
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18 Jul 2005, 22:06 (Ref:1358132)
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18 Jul 2005, 22:12 (Ref:1358135)
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i knew they were part of the fuji heavy industries, but didnt realies GM had a hold in them....
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