[iV8SC14R070809] Winton 400, Winton -4-6 April - Page 4

Umai Naa · 6 Apr 2014, 10:25 (Ref:3389237)

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Originally Posted by GTRMagic

I thought the SCAR mob sending a wheel into the fast lane was indefensible. They got a monetary penalty, not a sporting one. Arguably Mr Slade should not have been in the podium spot today because of it.

Does this fall within the realms of Mr Bargwanna, or does Mr Schenken have the responsibility for the lane? The crowd on the Winton hill want to know

The gents upstairs will argue that it was a team error, not a Slade error.

With regards to the speeding infringements, I'd say a few teams will be submitting their data to V8SC first thing tomorrow morning.

For the purposes of speculation, maybe the dash displays in the cars are giving a different reading, to what the radar gun is picking up?

Umai Naa · 6 Apr 2014, 10:33 (Ref:3389241)

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Originally Posted by one five five

She's ok for the 'colour' pieces, but please keep her away from the pitstops and post-race interviews, more of Larko & Murphy for the 'racing' stuff please.

I think she's improving all the time. Certainly showing a lot more confidence this season, and is beginning to ask all the right questions. Interestingly, she's pretty much the only one Mrs Kilmenko will give the time of day to.

Mr Beretta tries too hard to get in on all the 'old boys' banter, and technical aspects. Just ends up looking like the token third wheel.

Mr Murphy did well this weekend in his role. But then again, he's been doing the TV thing on and off for over 15 years now.

sizzle · 6 Apr 2014, 10:35 (Ref:3389242)

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Originally Posted by GTRMagic

Second win today...

Wonder if Perkins gets them?

Alex Davison didn't last year.

Driver TBA · 6 Apr 2014, 10:48 (Ref:3389248)

I can't remember the last time a Vodafone/Red Bull car didn't finish on a podium once over an entire weekend?

Only 95 points between the top 5 in the championship.

bluesport · 6 Apr 2014, 11:04 (Ref:3389257)

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Originally Posted by Driver TBA

I can't remember the last time a Vodafone/Red Bull car didn't finish on a podium once over an entire weekend?

Only 95 points between the top 5 in the championship.

Is Winton the T8 bogey track or has the tide turned?

chavez · 6 Apr 2014, 11:11 (Ref:3389260)

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Originally Posted by Umai Naa

The gents upstairs will argue that it was a team error, not a Slade error.

You win as a team and lose as a team.

The gents upstairs got it wrong.

**gomick** · 6 Apr 2014, 11:23 (Ref:3389266)

Finally a good weekend for Jason Bright

Good to see 888 in the pack too. So why did the Mercs have no sponsorship on the cars?

DX20VT · 6 Apr 2014, 11:38 (Ref:3389273)

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Originally Posted by Umai Naa

The gents upstairs will argue that it was a team error, not a Slade error.

But as they stated, how was that different to Whincup's car controller touching the car?
That was a team error not a whincup error?

Why was the penalty not the same?

Tourer · 6 Apr 2014, 11:53 (Ref:3389277)

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Originally Posted by chavez

You win as a team and lose as a team.

The gents upstairs got it wrong.

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Originally Posted by DX20VT

But as they stated, how was that different to Whincup's car controller touching the car?
That was a team error not a whincup error?

Why was the penalty not the same?

Agree with you 100% Chavez, it's a team sport - same in reverse when a driver does something on track and cops a drive through - are they now going to penalise the driver but leave team points intact?

Whoever made that call today (I assume the stewards) got it 100% wrong full stop and as you say DX20VT, no consistency with the approach taken in Adelaide.

Penalty for items such as wheels rolling across pit lane are strong because it endangers so many people in there - if another car hits it, could be deflected off anywhere and hit anyone.

Really, really bad call on that one today.

Micklegend · 6 Apr 2014, 11:58 (Ref:3389280)

You could say that anything in pit lane is a team thing, but as RD said, he'd pay 3 grand to win a race. I agree though that slade shouldn't be 3rd for a safety issue from the team.

Umai Naa · 6 Apr 2014, 12:42 (Ref:3389285)

I think this time they got it right with the Slade call. Therefore, I feel that the call against Whincup was incorrect.

naca · 7 Apr 2014, 11:56 (Ref:3389718)

Speaking of CAMS/V8SC they still haven't announced at what speed the drivers who where supposedly speeding where at. Yet more incompetence by that fool Damien White.

peckstar · 7 Apr 2014, 12:05 (Ref:3389726)

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Originally Posted by naca

Speaking of CAMS/V8SC they still haven't announced at what speed the drivers who where supposedly speeding where at. Yet more incompetence by that fool Damien White.

Does it matter? Not sure it does

EL GT · 7 Apr 2014, 13:45 (Ref:3389757)

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Originally Posted by Umai Naa

I think this time they got it right with the Slade call. Therefore, I feel that the call against Whincup was incorrect.

I feel you are wrong. V8 Supercars got it wrong Tim Slade most definitely should have had a drive thru penalty. Lets keep some consistence here, what about when Greg Murphy got his stop-go at Bathurst for the fuelling issue now that was a team error.

Umai Naa · 7 Apr 2014, 13:57 (Ref:3389760)

The team let the wheel roll away down pitlane, not Slade. He was sitting in the car, minding his own business.

Gaz170 · 7 Apr 2014, 19:59 (Ref:3389902)

That has always been a drive through, can't believe what the penalty was.

chavez · 7 Apr 2014, 20:27 (Ref:3389916)

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Originally Posted by Umai Naa

The team let the wheel roll away down pitlane, not Slade. He was sitting in the car, minding his own business.

So if Slade was to bin the car on the last lap and not finish, the team should still get the teams points for the position he was running before he crashed?

The team was sitting in the pits, minding their own business.

bluesport · 7 Apr 2014, 20:37 (Ref:3389920)

I would have thought that it would be an automatic drive-through for Slade.

TWRv12 · 7 Apr 2014, 23:13 (Ref:3389979)

CAMS/V8SC have anything to say about Dale Wood nearly collecting the recovery truck and the course car at back of Turn 8, during an off track excursion (Race 3, Lap 9).

leothedrummer · 8 Apr 2014, 00:12 (Ref:3389990)

Did Mr Wood pull the same stunt twice in the weekend? There was a replay shown at some point during race 1 with a glimpse of the Advam car going off the road in the backgroud. One of the commentators made a very casual comment as it was happening along the lines of "and theres Dale Wood going off the road in the background". But, next time he was shown on screen he was still in the same position on the road.

Did this happen or am I imagining things?

peckstar · 8 Apr 2014, 00:39 (Ref:3389998)

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Originally Posted by leothedrummer

Did Mr Wood pull the same stunt twice in the weekend? There was a replay shown at some point during race 1 with a glimpse of the Advam car going off the road in the backgroud. One of the commentators made a very casual comment as it was happening along the lines of "and theres Dale Wood going off the road in the background". But, next time he was shown on screen he was still in the same position on the road.

Did this happen or am I imagining things?

it happened and i believe TWR is talking about the same incident.

to get back on the road the way he went you have to drive passed soem recovery vehicles.

Paul dumbrell did the same thing a few years abck at Darwin, he vountarily redressed the situation and was given a drive through. Much more significant than Woods penalty

Mixer · 8 Apr 2014, 02:52 (Ref:3390016)

The lack of consistency with genuine safety issues is galling.

Especially a tyre in pit lane vs a car controller touching the car, I mean seriously?

sizzle · 8 Apr 2014, 03:24 (Ref:3390018)

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Originally Posted by leothedrummer

Did Mr Wood pull the same stunt twice in the weekend? There was a replay shown at some point during race 1 with a glimpse of the Advam car going off the road in the backgroud. One of the commentators made a very casual comment as it was happening along the lines of "and theres Dale Wood going off the road in the background". But, next time he was shown on screen he was still in the same position on the road.

Did this happen or am I imagining things?

Race 2 saturday AND race 3 sunday.

Marcos WTF · 8 Apr 2014, 06:31 (Ref:3390046)

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Originally Posted by Mixer

The lack of consistency with genuine safety issues is galling.

Especially a tyre in pit lane vs a car controller touching the car, I mean seriously?

No arguement from me Mixer. Do V$upercars use the same stewards/judge of fact/whatever they're called for every meeting?

Or are there different ones at each track?

one five five · 8 Apr 2014, 09:53 (Ref:3390108)

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Originally Posted by rich07

I'm sick of hearing Matty White and Skaifes voice when they're reacting to something in the race, they sound like they're in bed together. Knock it off guys

The commentary team, and in reality all the main players in V8s these days including the main journalists and those on the V8Supercar technical side in general, just these days appear to be one big 'in club' existing for no other purpose than to constantly pat eachother on the back for how well they are doing and won't hear anything said against them. I guess those are the perks of being part of 'the closed shop clan'

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