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10 Dec 2019, 21:04 (Ref:3946005)
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How about ones to create and at the same time do create race winning cars? 
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That makes even less sense than Juntos's original random-word-generator faux-profound gibberish  
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10 Dec 2019, 22:27 (Ref:3946024)
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But the words of Juntos... it's like poetry, it rhymes
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10 Dec 2019, 22:35 (Ref:3946027)
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Thanks guy for levelling me with good old Gordon.
Out of curiosity, is good old Gordon using on his hypercar the same bespoke Cosworth V12 that revs to 12,100rpm of the Red Bull Valkyrie?
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11 Dec 2019, 03:37 (Ref:3946059)
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I don't think they're related. The AMR V12 is 6.5 liters, the T50's is 4 liters. Beyond that, I don't know much else, but I sort of doubt that they're at least closely related.
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11 Dec 2019, 10:57 (Ref:3946113)
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He's getting Racing Point to help which is interesting. It's a team that still has plenty of people from the Force India days, so why not?
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4 Sep 2020, 07:56 (Ref:3999959)
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Gordon Murray Automotive to offer a track version of the T.50
The car will weigh only 890 kg (94 kg less compared to the road version) for a top power of the order of 730 horses. It has an LMP1 type shark fin. This T.50 will provide 1500 kg of downforce. The V12 Cosworth engine has also been reworked with the modification of more than 50 components.
Gordon Murray and his team spoke with Stéphane Ratel to see if it was possible to join the GT1 Sports Club.
https://www.endurance-info.com/fr/go...it-de-la-t-50/
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4 Sep 2020, 14:07 (Ref:4000043)
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Originally Posted by hondafan37
Gordon Murray Automotive to offer a track version of the T.50
The car will weigh only 890 kg (94 kg less compared to the road version) for a top power of the order of 730 horses. It has an LMP1 type shark fin. This T.50 will provide 1500 kg of downforce. The V12 Cosworth engine has also been reworked with the modification of more than 50 components.
Gordon Murray and his team spoke with Stéphane Ratel to see if it was possible to join the GT1 Sports Club.
https://www.endurance-info.com/fr/go...it-de-la-t-50/
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Those are some impressive specs for sure. I had just read an article that was focused on the development of this car and some good insights from Mr Murray himself. I doubt I will ever see one of these in my life but I think it is a spectacular looking car.
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4 Sep 2020, 18:12 (Ref:4000093)
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I would love to see that racing somewhere but suspect that is highly unlikely
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5 Sep 2020, 09:00 (Ref:4000169)
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What sort of a maniac would spend £3m on a GT racing car? And that's before running costs.
It's very nice but it's not a racing car. It's a plaything for people with more money than sense.
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7 Sep 2020, 00:01 (Ref:4000644)
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What sort of a maniac would spend £3m on a GT racing car? And that's before running costs.
It's very nice but it's not a racing car. It's a plaything for people with more money than sense.
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We'll sell you an LMH, spares and all race costs for Sebring, Spa and Le Mans for 5mme should you want a real race car.
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7 Sep 2020, 05:22 (Ref:4000668)
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We'll sell you an LMH, spares and all race costs for Sebring, Spa and Le Mans for 5mme should you want a real race car.
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Your cars are awesome !!!The 004C is one of the most beautiful cars I have ever seen. But this car the T50 has a fabulous V12, looks like a current 333 SP and capable some millionaires want to feel that. I am one of the few people who feel that Mazda's victory in 1991 is more important than AUDI's 13 victories. Sorry, sorry, sorry, I live in one of the poorest nations on earth, I'm not the one to tell you this, I love yours cars !!
I wish his 004 could win the 24 hours of Nurburgring!!!!
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7 Sep 2020, 07:26 (Ref:4000677)
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I watched Auto mondial over the weekend and they had a feature on the new Gordon Murray car, it looked great and loved the interesting bits about the aerodynamics, but at the end they seemed to say that the £2.5m or so cost was a bargain and because the original F1's are now worth £12m people would buy them as an investment rather than as a car. It is a sad fact that almost all of the 100 cars will be bought on that basis.
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7 Sep 2020, 19:57 (Ref:4000808)
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I saw a comment from him that a lot of the people buying them will use them. I think he knows a lot of them. He was quite pleased with that.
Great car, although it’s not a track car in my eyes, although it would obviously be pretty good at it, it’s the ultimate enjoyable road car to be used.
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10 Sep 2020, 18:06 (Ref:4001478)
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It seems good old Gordon has predictably chicken out. It would be disastrous racing return anyway. The McLaren F1 glory days were twenty years ago. The past is a place of reference, not a place of residence; the past is a place of learning, not a place of living.
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11 Sep 2020, 23:05 (Ref:4001765)
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Gordon, chickening out? I suppose I need a  for that.
As with the F1 the aim is for the ultimate useable road sportscar. Anything else is an add on. They didn’t want to race the F1, but there was enough persuasion from customers, people close, that they did it anyway. And they only went to win.
If this one stays just a road car. That is simply job done.
After, to my mind, creating the greatest road car he is only going to try it again. It will always be compare back to that. And he is doing it with his own company this time. Chickening out?
And on history and to paraphrase another ex McLaren guy. There are those make history and there are those that write about it.
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