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TF110 · 2 Jan 2019, 20:39 (Ref:3873700)

I don't have a preference. I just want to view the information and catch some behind the scenes type scoops. If it comes from one site or another, it doesn't matter to me. But certain sites need to stay away from click-bait type headlines. That seems unlikely because they want to generate clicks. Autosport and motorsport.com do the same thing and those are two of the biggest.

rich07 · 3 Jan 2019, 02:04 (Ref:3873734)

I enjoy both sites for different reasons so no favourites here. Double Stint is great for a weekly roundup of what’s going on and Pruett/Goodwin’s Week In Sportscars is a must listen for what questions people come up with. It’s interesting to see how alliances have changed in opposite ways since when I got into sportscars years ago. Things have changed and it appears some people involved are mighty unhappy about something. Here’s another person that doesn’t enjoy the podcasts being used as a platform to rip into someone. If you want to do it in private by all means go for it and that is where it should stay. And I don’t care who’s saying it. That’s irrelevant. It’s not classy at all.

One day I’ll hear the John Dagys ep of Dinner with Racers...apparently it’s pretty good.

Hedley Verity · 3 Jan 2019, 18:15 (Ref:3873816)

I'm a fan of TWISC (and midweek motorsport), but the weekly pronouncement of their moral superiority is getting a bit grating, and risks sounding smug, hopefully the comment in last weeks show to lay off it a bit is followed up.

Gingers4Justice · 5 Jan 2019, 22:04 (Ref:3874195)

There is one major news outlet that regularly employs interesting grammatical structures. And it ain't SC365.

I'm really glad that I'm not alone in finding it all a bit too partisan. It's led to me feeling a little apathetic and precisely the attitude that has driven me away from pursuing a career in it. Why can't people just be pleasant? It's just cars going round in circles! (Or, rather, the reporting of cars going round in circles.

TF110 · 5 Jan 2019, 22:40 (Ref:3874203)

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There is one major news outlet that regularly employs interesting grammatical structures. And it ain't SC365.

I'm really glad that I'm not alone in finding it all a bit too partisan. It's led to me feeling a little apathetic and precisely the attitude that has driven me away from pursuing a career in it. Why can't people just be pleasant? It's just cars going round in circles! (Or, rather, the reporting of cars going round in circles.

Seems most news today is like that. Affects even the sports we watch, sadly.

Gingers4Justice · 5 Jan 2019, 23:07 (Ref:3874207)

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Seems most news today is like that. Affects even the sports we watch, sadly.

You’re not wrong; however I perceive that this culture has accelerated in the last year or so and others say similar.

We’re not talking about a large group of people here - it’s dozens, not hundreds. Things can soon go back the other way.

Akrapovic · 6 Jan 2019, 11:50 (Ref:3874257)

I feel like there's a line that's been crossed. We're all aware they have opinions, and in previous years I've really enjoyed listening to those opinions. I think sometimes an opinion really adds to the discussion because it's usually followed by some sound reasoning that more often than not can change my own opinion on a situation. But recently it's been more about aggressively asserting these opinions at every opportunity. Often I agree with the opinion being said, but I feel the way it's communicated is over-aggressive and I find it exhausting. I do not feel relaxed after listening to these podcasts anymore.

It's easy to assume that what I just said is aimed purely at JH, but it isn't - it applies almost industry-wide. Martin Haven has become very like that too recently. Martin has always been a brilliant character and tended to fall on the ranty side. But now it feels like he's becoming a parody of himself, where rants and arguments are the norm. There were a couple of uncomfortable points in the WEC commentary where he'd argue with the subject experts. It's like they're playing up the funny characters they've been given. It's strange.

On a positive side, there was the new pit lane reporter, Diana Binks (IIRC) on IMSA Radio last year - she was a breath of fresh air. Professional and well spoken. Excellent job in the pit lane. And although Nick Daman comes close to over the ranty line in MWM, his pit lane reporting has also stepped up a notch recently. He's always been good and I've never once thought he could improve, but he's done it anyway. He can be ranty, but it's usually less of an argument. Really enjoy Nicks stuff.

J Jay · 6 Jan 2019, 14:44 (Ref:3874288)

I've been hesitant to wade in on this, but I don't think I can ignore it much longer. I'm trying to not fall into the trap of "Back in my day..." but things that might have been left unsaid before now aren't. Opinions, backsides, etc.

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I feel like there's a line that's been crossed. We're all aware they have opinions, and in previous years I've really enjoyed listening to those opinions. I think sometimes an opinion really adds to the discussion because it's usually followed by some sound reasoning that more often than not can change my own opinion on a situation.

And this is why Sam Collins has been such a big miss recently. At least I hope the refuse collection in his constituency is being sorted now!

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It's like they're playing up the funny characters they've been given.

Flandersation in action, right here. It also comes with the worrying implication that this made-for-retweets style of debate is necessary, because either they or someone above them believes what is happening on track is not good enough. And I completely agree that it is industry-wide; it's become a thing of late to simply shout louder (or the sportscar equivalent - talk down to and interrupt) when you believe your opinion takes precedence.

Coach Ep · 6 Jan 2019, 15:03 (Ref:3874290)

Not sure if this is the right topic for this but nevertheless: https://racer.com/2019/01/04/till-howe-join-imsa-radio/

It was a pleasure to hear Till and Shaw doing the commentary on the IMSA Prototype (P3) race yesterday (online). Glad they stay involved.

seanyb505 · 6 Jan 2019, 15:20 (Ref:3874291)

I really didn't enjoy Brian in the booth, but that's just my subjective preference. I heard my own voice on a video once (awful) and now it's difficult to not hear the same monotone blegh from other American commentators.

I think that like Shea Adam, pit lane reports will suit them.

carbsmith · 7 Jan 2019, 20:14 (Ref:3874564)

If you feel that the sports car media (and fandom) has gotten more ranty and divided lately, I would suggest it's a reflection of the current state of the sport. There was a cultural difference between IMSA and GARRA or ACO and SRO, but for the most part those ideologies had wildly different scope and were kept pretty separate so it was only a bit more than a minor annoyance that this or that historic race happened to be in one championship. But now those differences are being fought over in pretty much every championship on Earth and a large amount of people feel pretty threatened that what they love about sports car racing may not even exist in a few years, so of course everyone is on edge and desperate to make their point.

10 years ago when you got those stories about some vaporware ALMS entry trying to prop up the series nobody much cared. Now stories of vaporware DPi entries feel like a deep ideological attack against open competition and anything that makes LMP1 seem like a viable class is trying to shut out America. We're pretty much in a middle to late CART/IRL split situation but nobody quite knows it.

MaskedRacer · 17 Jan 2019, 19:52 (Ref:3876821)

The PC race from the Roar is on IMSA's youtube channel now, but there is a big concern I have. It is the abbreviated NBC broadcast.

I hope that the Weathertech series replays will still be the full IMSA TV version. Someone relive my fears if you know something that I don't.

CyberMotor · 21 Jan 2019, 13:43 (Ref:3877519)

I hope the Roku library keeps growing. Only way it could be better is if there was live streaming.

Akrapovic · 22 Jan 2019, 20:24 (Ref:3877782)

https://sportscar365.fm/

John and his team are really doubling down on the podcast from. S365 has launched S365.fm. Daily shows (!), integration with Alexa and Google Home, and a Patreon page for more premium content.

https://sportscar365.com/news/sports...cated-network/

Creating a network of channels and shows? Where have we seen this before? Competition might force sides to raise their game, rather than taking pot shots at each other.

MaskedRacer · 22 Jan 2019, 20:56 (Ref:3877790)

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https://sportscar365.fm/

John and his team are really doubling down on the podcast from. S365 has launched S365.fm. Daily shows (!), integration with Alexa and Google Home, and a Patreon page for more premium content.

https://sportscar365.com/news/sports...cated-network/

Creating a network of channels and shows? Where have we seen this before? Competition might force sides to raise their game, rather than taking pot shots at each other.

It will work if they offer lots of analysis. Especially after race weekends. Just repeating what they post on the web site won't be appealing.