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Old 22 Dec 2021, 13:21 (Ref:4090974)   #1
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BTCC 2023 season discussion, News and Rumours!

Yes, I know we haven't even started the 2022 season yet. But we already have a driver confirmation for 2023.

Sutton's 'multi-year' deal with NAPA means a 2023 seat is already taken.
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Old 22 Dec 2021, 20:12 (Ref:4091019)   #2
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No it doesn't. If you look at the past outcomes of 'multi-year' deals it actually makes it less likely he'll still be there.
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Old 22 Dec 2021, 20:32 (Ref:4091021)   #3
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No it doesn't. If you look at the past outcomes of 'multi-year' deals it actually makes it less likely he'll still be there.
Really?

Goff and ATS are in 2022 seats on multi-year deals.
Ingram at Excelr8.
Rowbottom at Dynamics.
Jordan first signed at WSR on a multi-year.
Plato at PMR was multi-year.
Turkington and Plato were multi-year deals at BMR.

etc, etc, etc.....
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Old 23 Dec 2021, 08:11 (Ref:4091048)   #4
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Really?

Goff and ATS are in 2022 seats on multi-year deals.
Ingram at Excelr8.
Rowbottom at Dynamics.
Jordan first signed at WSR on a multi-year.
Plato at PMR was multi-year.
Turkington and Plato were multi-year deals at BMR.

etc, etc, etc.....
You've just proved your point.

Jordan left WSR whilst still under multi-year contract
Plato sat out 2020 whilst under multi-year contract
Rowbottom has done one year at Dynamics so too early to count, the same goes for Taylor-Smith, Goff & Ingram.
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Old 23 Dec 2021, 08:14 (Ref:4091049)   #5
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I don't think its fair to use Jordan and Plato's 2020 situation - both were as a result of Covid restrictions impacting their commercial partners. Had Covid not hit, Im sure both would have done the full season.
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Old 23 Dec 2021, 08:28 (Ref:4091052)   #6
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You've just proved your point.

Jordan left WSR whilst still under multi-year contract
Plato sat out 2020 whilst under multi-year contract
Rowbottom has done one year at Dynamics so too early to count, the same goes for Taylor-Smith, Goff & Ingram.
Thank you for confirming that I proved my point.

To clarify:
Jordan's multi-year contract was 2017-2019 - he completed all seasons.
Plato's multi-year contract was for 2 seasons from 2019 - the team took a sabbatical due to C-19, he completed his multi-year contract in 2021.

In the 2022 thread, pretty much everyone accepts that Rowbottom, Ingram, Goff and ATS are confirmed drives as part of multi-year deals. Why is Sutton different for 2023?
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Old 23 Dec 2021, 06:52 (Ref:4091042)   #7
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No it doesn't. If you look at the past outcomes of 'multi-year' deals it actually makes it less likely he'll still be there.
Oh yes it does
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Old 22 Dec 2021, 20:36 (Ref:4091022)   #8
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Dan Cam's losing out on his Dynamics ride this year proves multi-year ain't necessarily worth moose ****!

Although I simply cannot see a situation where NAPA would peddle back on a deal - they did once mind, pulling the #56 MWR NASCAR Cup car sponsorship after some cheating shenanigans.
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Old 22 Dec 2021, 20:44 (Ref:4091023)   #9
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Dan Cam's losing out on his Dynamics ride this year proves multi-year ain't necessarily worth moose ****!
I think that deal was the exception, but many seem to claim it is the norm.

Yes, any deal can change in motorsport, but a deal is a deal.
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Old 23 Dec 2021, 11:00 (Ref:4091062)   #10
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Thought some Panto lightening up was needed
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Old 23 Dec 2021, 11:38 (Ref:4091069)   #11
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He's behind you!

Thought some Panto lightening up was needed
Agreed.
It only took the second post in the thread before snarky started. Typical for BTCC I guess.
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Old 23 Dec 2021, 13:24 (Ref:4091077)   #12
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Agreed.
It only took the second post in the thread before snarky started. Typical for BTCC I guess.
Ha ha ha pot/kettle/black!!!!
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Old 23 Dec 2021, 14:45 (Ref:4091080)   #13
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Old 23 Dec 2021, 17:26 (Ref:4091098)   #14
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So a new (at this stage probably unnecessary) thread...and it only took 3 posts for the usual suspect to get argumentative and want to do some early point scoring, and subsequently already has approx 50% of the total posts insisting they are right over semantics.

Happy Christmas guys - perhaps give it a rest for a few days

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Old 23 Dec 2021, 18:13 (Ref:4091105)   #15
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Do we really need this? This talk could in the 2022 topic.
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