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Old 7 Dec 2018, 17:06 (Ref:3868604)   #4081
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IndyCar staying with E85 through 2020.

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Old 8 Dec 2018, 23:04 (Ref:3868867)   #4082
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To be honest i don't know of a single person that cares about what fuel a series uses.
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Well it's partially important as an announcement as it was debated returning to the old methanol fuels to get closer to 1000hp. That seemed to be more a dream than reality but it was considered and the engine builders both said no thanks guys, that's almost a full redesign. So announcing they are sticking with EITHER closed the speculation for now.
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To be honest i don't know of a single person that cares about what fuel a series uses.
As long as they use fuel of some type. Not batteries
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Fuel may not be the most exciting aspect of motorsport but it's certainly at the heart of it. No fuel, no motorsport, unless you want to go electric like FE, or use a rubber band.

The problem with methanol, as opposed to E85, is that as it is an alcohol it evaporates quickly, attacks aluminum and offers virtually no engine lubrication unlike gasoline.

Race engine blocks are made from aluminum and there is a chemical reaction that occurs between the aluminum and methanol, which causes scaling so the aluminum needs to be anodized. I would think this is why Chevy and Honda wanted to stick with E85.
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Is Speedway Fuels somehow related to Sunoco?

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Is Speedway Fuels somehow related to Sunoco?
They are a separate entity. Speedway Fuels are owned by Speedway LLC, a convenience store chain, who in turn are owned by Marathon Petroleum Corporation.
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New tender was offered for fuel mix, hence why options were brought up in discussions with engine builders and teams regarding the future. Think the ideas where about how to build horsepower without big changes. Sounds like they settled on staying the same for now which isn't a bad thing with car. Spend the time improving the car on super speedways with the aero instead
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There's a new engine spec, as from 2021, so it makes sense to keep the current engine spec as is until then.
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Fuel may not be the most exciting aspect of motorsport but it's certainly at the heart of it. No fuel, no motorsport, unless you want to go electric like FE, or use a rubber band.

The problem with methanol, as opposed to E85, is that as it is an alcohol it evaporates quickly, attacks aluminum and offers virtually no engine lubrication unlike gasoline.

Race engine blocks are made from aluminum and there is a chemical reaction that occurs between the aluminum and methanol, which causes scaling so the aluminum needs to be anodized. I would think this is why Chevy and Honda wanted to stick with E85.
I wasn't trying to be an a** with my previous post. I do understand how important fuel can be to running an engine. I just thought it was a boring press release to say that the series was keeping things the same.

But now seeing all the other posts, it makes sense that the series did make an announcement about it.

And I'm already itching for some racing and we have months to go!
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I wasn't trying to be an a** with my previous post. I do understand how important fuel can be to running an engine. I just thought it was a boring press release to say that the series was keeping things the same.

But now seeing all the other posts, it makes sense that the series did make an announcement about it.

And I'm already itching for some racing and we have months to go!
That's fine.

St. Pete is on March 10, so roughly 3 more months. However, no news about the series' new sponsor.
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I wasn't trying to be an a** with my previous post. I do understand how important fuel can be to running an engine. I just thought it was a boring press release to say that the series was keeping things the same.

But now seeing all the other posts, it makes sense that the series did make an announcement about it.

And I'm already itching for some racing and we have months to go!
If it wasn't a comment like that we'd think you'd been hacked good sir.
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I wasn't trying to be an a** with my previous post. I do understand how important fuel can be to running an engine. I just thought it was a boring press release to say that the series was keeping things the same.

But now seeing all the other posts, it makes sense that the series did make an announcement about it.
As a fan, not an engine builder, with or without the other posts, I still don't give a rats behind what fuel they use....CART succeeded on methanol...I just wanna see 'em race. Everybody using the same fuel (as in no BoPing)? I'm happy to see them go, whatever it is.
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As a fan, not an engine builder, with or without the other posts, I still don't give a rats behind what fuel they use....CART succeeded on methanol...I just wanna see 'em race. Everybody using the same fuel (as in no BoPing)? I'm happy to see them go, whatever it is.
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It is good to see a new brand in the sport. Now had that brand also taken a title sponsorship of a race or something... could have generated some more interest
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