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Peter Auto return to the iconic 'temple of speed'. Global Endurance Legends will have their 3rd race of the year. Includes special combined FJ and F3 grid. See first post....
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Old 20 Sep 2019, 15:08 (Ref:3929103)   #46
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Great quali for 60s with belgian cobra getting pole on the last lap of session.

Morgans P22(1st in Class) and P26 (P2 in Class).

And no red flag. Gettin.
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Sadly looks like the red car may not make the race. Started losing oil from front of the engine, and then when firing up again in pit lane, no oil pressure......

Nothing found so far, but worst case scenario is No 1 main bearing. More investigation in morn, but we’re now just finishing off superb pizzas and beer!
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Sadly looks like the red car may not make the race. Started losing oil from front of the engine, and then when firing up again in pit lane, no oil pressure......

Nothing found so far, but worst case scenario is No 1 main bearing. More investigation in morn, but we’re now just finishing off superb pizzas and beer!
Hope its fixed.

Thoughts on newish looking calendar. Interesting having same meeting back to back with regards to Paul Ricard.
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Thanks! Lots to consider as the car should be racing at a Spa next w/end and Portimao next month......

Yes, bit odd last race this year at Le Castellet and first event there next April..... And the Med can be quiet cold at that time of year!

I prefer the yellow 512 but as it’s not here.....
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Howmet and 917 from different angles....Amazing how the first mentioned draws a crowd. Even other teams stand and watch the theatre!
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Thanks! Lots to consider as the car should be racing at a Spa next w/end and Portimao next month......

Yes, bit odd last race this year at Le Castellet and first event there next April..... And the Med can be quiet cold at that time of year!

I prefer the yellow 512 but as it’s not here.....
Spa, Portimao and Paul Ricard. Not bad eh

Yes . Odd that it was languishing down in 32nd place so hope its alright.Remember I think in 2015 they had a 512 M, 512s and a 312p all racing in one race along with an Alfa 33 aswell. WOW

Very envious now Mike, all these lovely cars your seeing (and racing) .

2 917s on track. What a job Peter Auto does in that regard. Be interesting how many feature at Le Mans Classic next year along with 512. Should hold a banner trying to convince them to come over to Brands etc for a historic meet.

I do prefer the 512m over the S. Do like the Penske liveried one featured in the Petrolicous vid.

Looking forward to watching on timing the battle between the 333sp and Speed 8.

Was looking at the Setup for XJR 14. Looked incredible.Quality Grp C grid- XJR8,9,14,Peugoet 905, 2×R90CK and a C11. Just no words.

Seems in a way that 60s enduro is the last domain for the normal Cobra 289 now with so many Daytonas popping. Think I've seen 2 more on entry lists for Spa.

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During FP I was standing next to a driver of mature years on the pitwall, and his comment as the 917s went past side by side was- ‘I’d pay good money to watch this!’

Think the 512 was suffering mechanical gremlins in Q. Was in and out of pits a lot.

Form memory we’ve only seen the 312P once or twice in the last few years but it is stunning. Seems to have the lowest roofline of any part from the Ford F3L, which sadly isn’t racing now, but was my favourite of all.....

Gutted if I don’t get to race. Only driven here once, 6 years ago in the same car, and my second Q lap yesterday was over a second faster than the fastest then. There was easily two more to come off that time, and I reckon could have taken the fight to the other SLR. But sometimes, things just don’t go your way....

Unless a miracle happens this morning possibilities of whether the car can be fixed for Spa being discussed. Maybe we can get a spare engine out from the UK and fit at the circuit....

Cobras- My take is that anyone building a new one now builds a Daytona Coupe, and there are several Brits that have done so. Most PA Cobras are older cars that have been around a while, so unless the owners want a new car, they stick to the normal version.... There is also the 7 litre ‘Factory Demonstrator’ Shelby Cobra in CER1, which originally ran in 60s Endurance before someone pointed out that it wasn’t actually eligible....

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During FP I was standing next to a driver of mature years on the pitwall, and his comment as the 917s went past side by side was- ‘I’d pay good money to watch this!’

Think the 512 was suffering mechanical gremlins in Q. Was in and out of pits a lot.

Form memory we’ve only seen the 312P once or twice in the last few years but it is stunning. Seems to have the lowest roofline of any part from the Ford F3L, which sadly isn’t racing now, but was my favourite of all.....

Gutted if I don’t get to race. Only driven here once, 6 years ago in the same car, and my second Q lap yesterday was over a second faster than the fastest then. There was easily two more to come off that time, and I reckon could have taken the fight to the other SLR. But sometimes, things just don’t go your way....

Unless a miracle happens this morning possibilities of whether the car can be fixed for Spa being discussed. Maybe we can get a spare engine out from the UK and fit at the circuit....

Cobras- My take is that anyone building a new one now builds a Daytona Coupe, and there are several Brits that have done so. Most PA Cobras are older cars that have been around a while, so unless the owners want a new car, they stick to the normal version.... There is also the 7 litre ‘Factory Demonstrator’ Shelby Cobra in CER1, which originally ran in 60s Endurance before someone pointed out that it wasn’t actually eligible....
Just shows you how incredible they are.

Just mentioned another favourite of mine.

The Ford F3l and the 908 Langheck were at Spa in 2016. The 312 P was at Le Mans and Monza classics. Sounds even better than a 512. Can't believe how low they look.

Is that the 427 version. Take my hat of to the driver racing that. Talk about power:
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Interesting that Goodwood are now uploading lots of vids from Peter Auto this year.

3:42. Lovely shot of the Morgan Mike.

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Onboard from the pole Cobra. Talk about traffic .

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fUGnlFnnxF4&t=136s

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Unlucky Mike about not getting car out. Hope it can be out for Spa.

Seems like myself posting how well the Morgans did has been a curse as the other SLR has stopped if timing is to be correct.

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Yeah sorry Mike to hear of your bad luck. Echo what Will said above in hope you can get it sorted in time for Spa.
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Onboard from the pole Cobra. Talk about traffic .

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fUGnlFnnxF4&t=136s
Looked like it was on the limiter a lot, at least half the main straight... I presume that is what the red light in front of the driver was.

The problems of a fast car in traffic.... you keep catching up all the other cars going slower
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Some exquisite cars in the videos, but what really got me was the gorgeous sounds.
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Monza Historic 2019 - Friday, Day 2 Highlights - Ferrari 330 GTO, Cobra, BMW 3.0 CSL.... 10 mins.

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Sadly looks like the red car may not make the race. Started losing oil from front of the engine, and then when firing up again in pit lane, no oil pressure......

Nothing found so far, but worst case scenario is No 1 main bearing. More investigation in morn, but we’re now just finishing off superb pizzas and beer!
That's rubbish. Sorry Mike.
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