Driver Ricciardo - Verstappen Battle - Page 7

E.B · 30 May 2018, 18:56 (Ref:3825715)

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Originally Posted by davec

Not trying to argue or defend Max but of these 7 collisions/crashes how many were his fault? Baku 2018 was both (according to FIA), Sing, Austria and Spain 2017 he was innocent party on first laps.

I totally agree that he was an innocent party in some of his skirmishes, indeed the three mentioned by you ..... it probably is not very clear but I was more thinking that he has not had that many direct engine failures in races, at least not at Red Bull. He had more with STR. That is not to say he has not had a bad run with reliability last year.
Am I right in thinking Red Bull provide their own gearbox, or do they take the whole power train from Renault?

Richard C · 30 May 2018, 20:25 (Ref:3825730)

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Originally Posted by E.B

I totally agree that he was an innocent party in some of his skirmishes, indeed the three mentioned by you ..... it probably is not very clear but I was more thinking that he has not had that many direct engine failures in races, at least not at Red Bull. He had more with STR. That is not to say he has not had a bad run with reliability last year.
Am I right in thinking Red Bull provide their own gearbox, or do they take the whole power train from Renault?

I believe Red Bull makes their gearbox in-house. And they "might" even provide some internals for Toro Rosso, but could be wrong on that.

Richard

Skam85 · 30 May 2018, 23:31 (Ref:3825765)

Those were only race-ending collisions too - how many practice or qualifying incidents has Max had in his career that has negatively impacted his race the next day? ie, Monaco last weekend.

peterelise · 31 May 2018, 05:58 (Ref:3825791)

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Originally Posted by E.B

In terms of DNF's he has had 17 DNFs in his career, (6 with STR, 11 with RBR) summarised as follows:
Biggest individual reason is crashes/collisions with 7.

No Event /year. Lap. Reason given
172018Azerbaijan39Collision
162018Bahrain3Differential
152017Singapore0Collision
142017Belgium7Power loss
132017Austria0Collision
122017Azerbaijan12Engine
112017Canada10Electrics
102017Spain1Collision
92017Bahrain11Brakes
82016USA28Gearbox
72016Monaco34Accident
62016Russia33Engine (STR)
52015Britain3Accident (STR)
42015Monaco62Collision (STR)
32015Bahrain34Electrics (STR)
22015China52Engine (STR)
12015Australia32Engine (STR)

Wasn’t Bahrain this year also a result of collision (with Lewis) that broke the diff?

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E.B · 31 May 2018, 06:53 (Ref:3825800)

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Originally Posted by peterelise

Wasn’t Bahrain this year also a result of collision (with Lewis) that broke the diff?

I believe so.... I took the reasons as the official reasons given in the results. Often the reasons will be the result of other incidents, ie punctures, suspension failures some laps later, and as in this case the diff failed (likely) as a result of the contact.

Skam85 · 7 Jun 2018, 23:17 (Ref:3827544)

Maxy boy not happy this weekend.

https://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/v...t-1044991/?s=1

Threatening to headbutt the next person who asks about his crashes. Even his head wants to make contact with things!

FAS33 · 8 Jun 2018, 00:33 (Ref:3827548)

Well at least he’s using his head.

S griffin · 8 Jun 2018, 00:42 (Ref:3827549)

He needs to have a weekend where he doesn’t make a major mistake

Richard C · 8 Jun 2018, 02:16 (Ref:3827566)

He clearly was not happy with the question...

https://youtu.be/PcDtCqvNIQU

Richard

steve_r · 8 Jun 2018, 05:35 (Ref:3827579)

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Originally Posted by Skam85

Maxy boy not happy this weekend.

https://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/v...t-1044991/?s=1

Threatening to headbutt the next person who asks about his crashes. Even his head wants to make contact with things!

On current form, he would probably miss.

F1Guy · 8 Jun 2018, 06:42 (Ref:3827596)

With Ricciardo facing multiple penalties in the coming races, looks like Max's season is about to turn around.

Looking at the RBR used PU components before the Spanish GP, seems DR is well and truly out of this battle against MV for 2018.

GregUK · 8 Jun 2018, 07:11 (Ref:3827602)

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Originally Posted by Skam85

Maxy boy not happy this weekend.

https://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/v...t-1044991/?s=1

Threatening to headbutt the next person who asks about his crashes. Even his head wants to make contact with things!

Just the sort of media-savvy comments that Dr Marko would want to hear from a driver on Red Bull's payroll.

S griffin · 8 Jun 2018, 08:08 (Ref:3827610)

Newey is trying to find a way to avoid a grid drop for Danny

steve_r · 8 Jun 2018, 11:25 (Ref:3827638)

Yeah, sounds like they might bolt a used engine (MGU-H or whatever it is called) instead of taking a drop.

P38 in workshop · 9 Jun 2018, 07:49 (Ref:3827791)

With each passing race,Max is resembling more strongly the current period's version of Andrea de Cesaris.No question of his talent,which is usually described in a statement that contains the word "but" to highlight results that don't match the raw ability.

Casper · 9 Jun 2018, 09:12 (Ref:3827799)

Liberty most probably paid him to say it so F1 fans would have something to talk about on the net. Nothing sells sport more than a good punch up or someone saying stuff like this. Personally I am a bit sorry he didn't get stuck in to the media properly as they ask the same dumb inane questions every race.

**Adam43** · 10 Jun 2018, 10:36 (Ref:3828044)

Is this a new thing, or did CVC do it before? Do Liberty script all the driver comments?

S griffin · 10 Jun 2018, 19:36 (Ref:3828166)

To be honest I think a lot of us would be annoyed to be constantly asked the same question

Greem · 11 Jun 2018, 15:47 (Ref:3828449)

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Originally Posted by S griffin

To be honest I think a lot of us would be annoyed to be constantly asked the same question

Is this a new thing, or did CVC do it before? Do Liberty script all the driver comments?

(with apologies to Adam43)

**Adam43** · 11 Jun 2018, 22:02 (Ref:3828520)

VIVA GT · 12 Jun 2018, 07:12 (Ref:3828580)

I just (think I) heard on the radio news that for the Canadian GP Verstappen was on his own, he didn't have his Dad, Mum & Sister travel with him like he usually does. Would the different approach be connected with this?

crmalcolm · 12 Jun 2018, 07:30 (Ref:3828585)

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Originally Posted by VIVA GT

I just (think I) heard on the radio news that for the Canadian GP Verstappen was on his own, he didn't have his Dad, Mum & Sister travel with him like he usually does. Would the different approach be connected with this?

Andrew Benson covers it a bit here https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/formula1/44444706

Kempi · 12 Jun 2018, 09:48 (Ref:3828609)

This is something I cannot understand with many sports people: any regular Joe that starts working does so without their family around them. It is part of growing up. Heck, even in school you are not with your family. But the sports people often cannot do one step without everyone being there.

F1Guy · 12 Jun 2018, 11:09 (Ref:3828623)

Blame Jos. He is just waaaay over controlling of Max. Jos puts things in Max's head that Max can do without. I have heard of people saying how overbearing Jos can be towards Max, and when he says jump Max says how high. Another Andre Agassi story I fear. Made to order racer to fulfil Jos's dream.

F1Guy · 28 Jul 2018, 09:02 (Ref:3839252)

Ricciardo using an older spec engine in Hungary, while Verstappen has the latest spec Renault PU.

Ricciardo taking some big hits lately. Wonder how long before lights out!?

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