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3 Apr 2019, 14:32 (Ref:3895088) | #126 | ||||
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imo he did enough to showcase his quality in his first race, justified his signing, and called into question Ferrari's strategy of favouring the multi WDC winning diver in seat number 1....a feat most 2nd seat Ferrari divers never accomplish. Quote:
no doubt he could have done better but 'very poor' is on the harsh side for me. |
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3 Apr 2019, 14:38 (Ref:3895091) | #127 | |
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That's another way of looking at it. I would say Vettel did not have to give any space, and in hindsight Leclerc would have been better off backing down earlier and staying ahead of Verstappen. But I have no doubt he will learn such things quickly
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3 Apr 2019, 14:52 (Ref:3895092) | #128 | |||
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also i wonder if Charlie would have come to that conclusion faster than his replacements. last year, i believe, Charlie brought in some new produces and even did some practices of it during one of the test sessions, presumably, for situations like this. have to admit my opinion is clouded by Leclerc's failure though...if he was still in the lead i would have hated seeing that lead taken away. but since he wasnt and the eventual winner was there more due to being in the right place (as opposed to outright speed), i would have liked to see something more entertaining at the end. all in all i would have liked to see a shoot out. |
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3 Apr 2019, 16:33 (Ref:3895109) | #129 | |||
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3 Apr 2019, 17:01 (Ref:3895113) | #130 | ||
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true true, with the size of the front wings there probably would have been contact on a restart and the race would have ended under yellow anyway.
still would have liked to see a shoot out though! |
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3 Apr 2019, 18:41 (Ref:3895134) | #131 | ||
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Just imagine when Leclerc's Ferrari had the failure and the other cars were set to pass andthe Renault's retired sending out the safety car. He would have won based on being saved by the SC. I would have been furious because it would have taken the role of reliability away from the equation.
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3 Apr 2019, 23:11 (Ref:3895166) | #132 | |||
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Spatial awareness is not an issue for Leclerc whereas it certainly is for his teammate! When a driver is confident in himself and his car he knows dropping a place or two is recoverable so it's worth making a move. |
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3 Apr 2019, 23:58 (Ref:3895174) | #133 | ||
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I think some context needs to be given. 0.3s behind his established team in the first race for the team (his second season too). Slower when running linger than the dominant driver/car in the in the race.
Of track, yep, he still needs to get some consistent lappery (we saw that a little a Bahrain too). Not the only one to have a little off. Poor? Or on par with expectation? Whatever we have, IMO, an OK and a very good race. Two in many more to come, could go either way. |
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4 Apr 2019, 09:07 (Ref:3895207) | #134 | |
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You can't expect him to just come in and dominate his 4 time champion team mate, but you can expect him to give him a hard time, which he has done so far
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4 Apr 2019, 14:45 (Ref:3895262) | #135 | |||
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personally i like that the average age grid age is going down/new talent emerging and getting chances to drive but im also not a fan of the unreasonable expectations being placed on them. its like if a kid cant win a world title in their first couple of seasons their career is over so throw them on the scrap heap to make room for the next so called wunderkind! or maybe this is me just being old! |
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4 Apr 2019, 15:02 (Ref:3895264) | #136 | ||
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I personally don't really like that the grid is so young. For example, when Sky did the carting race with Johnny H and the three kids. I was thinking just that, they are kids. I am not taking anything away from their driving talent. They look like kids, act like kids, but they have been driving for a long time.
Verstappen was a kid when he started in F1. Then he put on some muscle , started shoving other drivers and became a man really quickly. He is a force to be reckoned with in every way. Then I think back to when Kimi started and he didn't even have his license. It's all good! Sent from my SM-G955W using Tapatalk |
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4 Apr 2019, 15:43 (Ref:3895268) | #137 | ||
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I know what you mean, but when the helmets are on and the lights go out, does it really matter? None of them drive like kids! Schooled from an early age for a F1 career, and picked up as children by F1 teams and brought through the the teams F1 driver programs. By the time they arrive in F1, most of them really are decent and ready to go.
In the old days a lot of the drivers were there simply because they had sponsorship though a cigarette company, and new drivers would typically not be expected to really perform until they had a couple of seasons experience. |
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4 Apr 2019, 16:32 (Ref:3895273) | #138 | ||
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...and after smoking a pile of cigarettes.
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4 Apr 2019, 16:55 (Ref:3895279) | #139 | ||
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Im looking forward to watching Vettel being pushed hard by Leclerc. Vettel wont like it and will get clumsy as he does. Lets hope Ferrari let them "kick it out" on track. I have a feeling the Team has become bored with Seb and since the leaving of a few top people are now focusing on new young blood. Wouldn't Max provide spectator entertainment there with Charles Leclerc? There's a thought..
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4 Apr 2019, 19:31 (Ref:3895309) | #140 | ||
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I was thinking the same thing about Leclerc. How quickly will Ferrari realise that his is the basket they should be putting their eggs in for the future.....?
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4 Apr 2019, 20:02 (Ref:3895313) | #141 | ||
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Maybe it's the change from Arrivabene to Binotto; maybe it's something different, either way the Scuderia seem a little less up their own rear ends than they have been in recent years. |
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4 Apr 2019, 20:04 (Ref:3895314) | #142 | |
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When was the last time Ferrari promoted someone to the main team in just their second F1 year? I think it's great, Leclerc is obviously talented and together they stand a much bigger chance of beating Mercedes.
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4 Apr 2019, 20:07 (Ref:3895315) | #143 | ||
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Yes.. Greem and Ayse are with me.. well ahead.. Watch this lad.. him and Max are the future big ones..
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4 Apr 2019, 20:13 (Ref:3895318) | #144 | ||
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Don't forget Kimi.
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4 Apr 2019, 20:18 (Ref:3895319) | #145 | ||
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Love Kimi.. bet his Bank Manager is his best mate...
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4 Apr 2019, 20:19 (Ref:3895320) | #146 | ||
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Yet if I chose a Saturday night out with the F1 crowd..Kimi would win..
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4 Apr 2019, 20:27 (Ref:3895323) | #147 | ||
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Alesi had one and a half seasons with Tyrrell before joining them having turned down Williams’ option on him However for inexperience, you really need to look at Gilles Villeneuve |
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4 Apr 2019, 21:33 (Ref:3895340) | #148 | ||
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Personally I think Vettel is closer to the end than Hamilton, but I think both of them could (not necessarily will!) be around and at the top for years to come. |
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4 Apr 2019, 22:27 (Ref:3895345) | #149 | ||
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I think we need to see a lot more of him before we start making sweeping statements about how good he is, having said that, he looks very promising indeed. |
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