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Old 17 Oct 2023, 17:30 (Ref:4181851)   #601
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BMW really has lost its way in the design department hasn't it? Everything else in this thread looks better than that BMW. The Honda is incredibly dull looking and instantly forgettable but that BMW is offensively ugly.
Reluctantly agreed.
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Old 30 Nov 2023, 19:39 (Ref:4187892)   #603
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Transformed in a real SUV.
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Old 1 Dec 2023, 12:30 (Ref:4187931)   #605
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KIA has a lot of different design styles. Or is it just me?
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KIA has a lot of different design styles. Or is it just me?
I feel like it has been changing quickly the past 5 years too. Same with Hyundai
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My point too. I don't think possible to talk about improvement tho. Wasn't the style dept located in CA perviously?
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Old 18 Jan 2024, 18:37 (Ref:4192344)   #610
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I like the front.
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There hasn't been a decent Ford (past Mustangs excepted) since the Mk1 Escorts and the Capris of that era.
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Don't agree, not much wrong with Fiesta, Focus and Mondeo.
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Don't agree, not much wrong with Fiesta, Focus and Mondeo.

What a boring old world it would be if we didn't have likes and dislikes. Doesn't make either of us wrong.
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Having owned quite a lot of these over the years (even lately an Ecoboost Fiesta) I always found they are cost effective. But the fuel engines have something in common, they are damn thirsty!
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And now the SUV's have to pay skyhigh to park in Paris area (18€ per hour, c 230 per day). Mind you that SUV is not a french acronym it's been a challenge for our authorities to qualify a SUV! They went for the most obvious, the weight, setteled at 1600 kilos. Dry or not? With batteries or not? Anyway, this makes many SW's becoming SUV's! I wonder about the weight of an Arcana, 2008, 3008 or 5008. Or may be only foreign productions are targetted? What a mess, again!
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And now the SUV's have to pay skyhigh to park in Paris area (18€ per hour, c 230 per day). Mind you that SUV is not a french acronym it's been a challenge for our authorities to qualify a SUV! They went for the most obvious, the weight, setteled at 1600 kilos. Dry or not? With batteries or not? Anyway, this makes many SW's becoming SUV's! I wonder about the weight of an Arcana, 2008, 3008 or 5008. Or may be only foreign productions are targetted? What a mess, again!

Parking charges by weight?

A classic bait and switch.

Force changes for "safety" and "ecology" reasons that increase the size and weight of vehicles and then claim they are in some braid definition way "antisocial" so everyone needs to pay more compensation to society. Or rather to the useless councils who manage "society" and whose greatest skills are directed towards having well-paid jobs with little real personal responsibility but a lot of "power", early retirement and fat pensions.

Once they have forced the European manufacturers out of the market will they simple allow Chinese vehicles in or are they angling for a rapid extension of public transport of some sort under government control?
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Grant, from what I have read and understood about the new higher parking charges for SUVs, most of it is driven by Parisiennes who are fed up with being unable to find parking in Paris because all the available places are chock-a-block with SUVs.

This reminds me about a campaign a couple of years ago being waged by residents around the Swiss Cottage area in North London who were up in arms because roads were being blocked by mothers in their Range Rovers, etc. dropping their cherubs off at school and then returning way too early to pick them up at the end of the school day. The local council, Camden, was considering banning Chelsea tractors from the area, but I don't remember what happened in the end.
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Gentlemen, I do enjoy thoroughly your comments. Yes, Mike, Parisiennes or so called. Yes, Grant, by weight. But some have to pay what is called super-malus, related to emissions, fee can be up to 60K € to be paid when the vehicule is first registered. Oops…
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The rules make no sense.

A plugin compact (like a León or a 308) weighs more than 1600 kg, so they pay the congestion charge.

The Tesla Model Y weighs less than 2000 kg, so it doesn't pay the congestion charge.
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More than you can expect, Naburu, I fear! Now it's been voted, they only consider that they have to qualify each car per model and registration and adapt the two payment software systems. One is pay by phone, using several aps -up to three different ones- and one for the cash machines you can find, with a lot of hassle, in the parisian streets. All about politics, announcement effect and threaten! In the meanwhile, a large part of the buses are dirty, smoking like heck, not climatised and offer no safety of any kind. And we are about to have the Olympic Games! But if they apply for the Stupid Games, they'll have a place of choice on the podium…
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