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Old 20 Sep 2023, 13:14 (Ref:4177566)   #576
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Old 21 Sep 2023, 16:39 (Ref:4177696)   #577
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Er, the X6-style rear window is too slanted for my tastes. From this angle, the car looks like a lifted liftback.
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Old 21 Sep 2023, 16:44 (Ref:4177697)   #578
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Old 21 Sep 2023, 16:49 (Ref:4177699)   #579
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Er, the X6-style rear window is too slanted for my tastes. From this angle, the car looks like a lifted liftback.
Yeah, and some point you've just made a trunk with the entire ass end as the hinge
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Old 25 Sep 2023, 17:50 (Ref:4178319)   #581
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Reminds me an Actyon I bought for the price of the fuel tank content… Plus a dinner.
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Reminds me an Actyon I bought for the price of the fuel tank content… Plus a dinner.
Don't want to insult you but even for the price of tank of fuel that's.... The Actyon is below the Fiat Multipla.
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Correct. I always found the new Multipla to have a very good handling. As to the Actyon, the dinner itself was worth the effort…
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Old 28 Sep 2023, 21:12 (Ref:4178693)   #585
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Yes rather generic, but at least it's a boxy back end and not a coupe slant
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It seems as though Range Rover set the trend, and then every one else just about copies them.
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Reading up on the Century brand, and I must admit I didn't know this and I cannot recall ever seen any of their different models, it is basically the luxury models for the Japanese market; Lexus being the brand worldwide. The brand models started in the 60s, and seem based on the Crown range.
Century’s are great.

The second gen with the V12 is the business. (Not an SUV).

Could have had one: https://bringatrailer.com/listing/19...ota-century-8/
More suited to Japan or UK, but…
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Looks like a XXL Crown. I think Mike will, or not, confirm this. I remember his story about the sophisticated and efficient airco system having inspired Rolls Royce engineers.
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Looks like a XXL Crown. I think Mike will, or not, confirm this. I remember his story about the sophisticated and efficient airco system having inspired Rolls Royce engineers.

Gérard, I'm afraid you've lost me as far as the XXL reference. Or do you mean the Ford Crown Vics?

As to the air-con, yes RR did indeed buy a couple of Crowns to try to emulate the system because it was far better, or so I believe, than anything else that was on the market at that time. I also read fairly recently that another manufacturer, I can't remember who at the moment, also bought a Crown for the same reason as well as to have a good look at the straight six which was a sublime engine.

As to that '97 Century, maybe my memory is a bit out of kilt, but the external styling seems to be a little out of date. And I can see some of the bodywork panels come from, or are strongly influenced by, both the late 70s and the early 80s Crown models as well a touch of Mercedes at the front.
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As to that '97 Century, maybe my memory is a bit out of kilt, but the external styling seems to be a little out of date. And I can see some of the bodywork panels come from, or are strongly influenced by, both the late 70s and the early 80s Crown models as well a touch of Mercedes at the front.
That's because Century buyers are a century old or so.

A Japanese new rich would buy a Lexus or a German / Italian car.
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That's because Century buyers are a century old or so.

A Japanese new rich would buy a Lexus or a German / Italian car.

You would think so; however even though the Lexus brand cars were started in the 1980s, Toyota only commenced domestic sales in 2005; Century was their premium brand in Japan.

And currently, Toyota are severely restricting the allocation of new Lexus cars to their domestic dealerships because of the shortage of components especially semiconductors.
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After a century, those people bought a Toyopet…
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I prefer the Skoda over the BMW.
BMW really has lost its way in the design department hasn't it? Everything else in this thread looks better than that BMW. The Honda is incredibly dull looking and instantly forgettable but that BMW is offensively ugly.
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BMW really has lost its way in the design department hasn't it? Everything else in this thread looks better than that BMW. The Honda is incredibly dull looking and instantly forgettable but that BMW is offensively ugly.
Whatever model of BMW SUV was the safety car at Petit was hideous. It looked ok moving on track in the dark, but standing by it stationary in daylight was rough. There were just all these extra creases that didn't need to be there.
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Those taillights look the same to me.

At first glance, yes they do look similar. However, the BMW's are almost flat from top to bottom on the rear quarter and tailgate whilst the Skoda's has a crease through the centre.
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