Porsche 24h test...

Francesco · 14 Dec 2007, 16:46 (Ref:2088885)

In the PR by team essex (here in english http://translate.google.com/translat...&hl=en&ie=UTF8) it's stated they are going to do a 24h test organised by Porsche... does anybody (Veerschur TM for example

) when/where this will be made and if there are going to be other cars in that test?

**Bentley03** · 14 Dec 2007, 17:06 (Ref:2088907)

Yes, that caught my eye too, although I'm not quite sure of it's implications. For sure, there will be the two European Spyders hoping for an invite to Le Mans, but beyond those two, how many from across the Pond? How serious an attack on the Le Mans LMP2 crown are we going to see from Porsche? Afterall, they do have a pair of auto invites for the Penske Spyders in the bag..........might they?

aeroehl · 14 Dec 2007, 17:46 (Ref:2088950)

Only if Porsche fits the bill. Realistically, the Penske Porsche has a shot at a top five finish at Lemans with the Penske Team and the Porsche drivers. Their reliability has been close to perfect since Sebring. This is the best prototype available to customers right now.

HORNDAWG · 15 Dec 2007, 03:07 (Ref:2089282)

Quote:

Originally Posted by aeroehl

Only if Porsche fits the bill. Realistically, the Penske Porsche has a shot at a top five finish at Lemans with the Penske Team and the Porsche drivers. Their reliability has been close to perfect since Sebring. This is the best prototype available to customers right now.

Huh? I count 3 Audis, at least 2 Peugeots, 3 Pescarolos and a couple of P-1 Lolas to get around. And LeMans is a P-1 track. I do not think that the Spyder has the legs or will be any more reliable than the P-1's will be come race time. I will grant that the Spyder is an awsome P-2 and has been faster than some P-1's this year but I do not see them getting much past the top ten, if that. IMO. Also there are the P-1 and P-2 adjustments that will be in effect next year.

L.P.

Spawinte · 15 Dec 2007, 23:54 (Ref:2089736)

He probably meant within LMP2, it would be fairly obvious that the Spyder won't beat an LMP1 at Le Mans. But what if all the diesels break down.....

The Real DMN · 16 Dec 2007, 00:19 (Ref:2089746)

Didn't Vette finish a high as 6th overall in recent years?

When it comes to Le Sarthe, as long as your still going round, anything can happen.

gsmith2424 · 16 Dec 2007, 00:59 (Ref:2089762)

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Real DMN

Didn't Vette finish a high as 6th overall in recent years?

When it comes to Le Sarthe, as long as your still going round, anything can happen.

Yes it happened in 2006 where the 64 Vette finished 4th overall with the highest LMP 2 car in 8th overall. Also that same year 7 of the top 12 were GT1 cars (4 p1 and 1 p2).

HORNDAWG · 16 Dec 2007, 01:40 (Ref:2089768)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Spawinte

He probably meant within LMP2, it would be fairly obvious that the Spyder won't beat an LMP1 at Le Mans. But what if all the diesels break down.....

I am not so sure of that.

In my opinion the Spyder is a very good candidate if not a lock to win P-2, especially if ran by a team of the quality and means of Penske!

L.P.

Fogelhund · 16 Dec 2007, 02:14 (Ref:2089771)

It sure would be nice to see Penske and Porsche at Le Mans. Hopefully they build a P1 in 08', along with Acura... Acura, Audi, Peugeot and Porsche all in P1 would certainly be quite the battle.

aeroehl · 16 Dec 2007, 05:18 (Ref:2089785)

If the Porsche ran a bullet proof race, which it is certainally capable of doing, it is a top 5 finishing prototype. Aston Martin finished in the top 5 last year, and there were 3 Audi's, 2 Peugeot's, and 3 Pescarolo's to go with a few P1 Lola's. If Aston Martin can do it with a GT1, Penske Racing/Porsche Motorsports can do it with the RS Spyder Evo.

JAG · 16 Dec 2007, 13:58 (Ref:2089936)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fogelhund

It sure would be nice to see Penske and Porsche at Le Mans. Hopefully they build a P1 in 08', along with Acura... Acura, Audi, Peugeot and Porsche all in P1 would certainly be quite the battle.

Any hints on that P1, surely Porsche wish to compete against manufcatuers like Acura and Audi in the ALMS, while continuing to sell P2, and later P1, customer cars.

SebringMG · 16 Dec 2007, 17:44 (Ref:2090013)

I think Porsches commitment to P1 will depend upon the exact content of the new EVO rules and how many customer cars they can sell!! If they feel there is a market for selling customer cars they will build them!!

Judging by the number of P2 cars they have sold there could well be a market for some P1s.......

Wilbo · 24 Dec 2007, 18:40 (Ref:2094558)

From what I understand from within Porsche they will be back at some point in the top class at Le Mans probaly with a new car. So could be a couple of seasons before a complete factory effort. Will be a cosed cockpit car in line with the 2010 reg changes.

Semi works in LMP2 though could be on the cards...

Fogelhund · 24 Dec 2007, 18:52 (Ref:2094563)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wilbo

Will be a cosed cockpit car in line with the 2010 reg changes.

Suggestions are these reg changes have been abandoned.

broadrun96 · 25 Dec 2007, 02:07 (Ref:2094654)

Except the reason for GT1s classifying high at the end is due to the attrition in the LMP2 class, not thinking the RS Spyder, even the Evo, has anymore chance to run the 24hr unhindered than the previously best built other LMP2s. I could be wrong but no track they have already run at has the stress of full-power runs done the straights for that long a duration.

GTfour · 25 Dec 2007, 11:28 (Ref:2094706)

I don't think we'll be seeing an all out factory effort from Porsche before the Audi's have stopped competing. After all,Porsche practically OWNS Volkswagen and Audi.
I'm afraid the topdogs in Stuttgart won't have it that two of their own factories start throwing millions at eachother just for fun.

**FIRE** · 25 Dec 2007, 12:10 (Ref:2094709)

Quote:

Originally Posted by GTfour

I don't think we'll be seeing an all out factory effort from Porsche before the Audi's have stopped competing. After all,Porsche practically OWNS Volkswagen and Audi.
I'm afraid the topdogs in Stuttgart won't have it that two of their own factories start throwing millions at eachother just for fun.

I have no problem if they rename the Audi R10 to Porsche Spyder and put a petrol engine in the back. Two cars for the price of one.

GTfour · 25 Dec 2007, 13:12 (Ref:2094717)

Sounds good to me. As long as it doesn't carry these ever more boring four circels and produces a sound worthy of a racecar,I'm happy!

Jonerz · 28 Dec 2007, 05:27 (Ref:2095606)

I hope natural competition is allowed to grow freely in motorsport and we all not have our eyes clouded over by the desire for large fields with so-called factory teams. If you build it they will come. Ideally Porsche will come with their own brand-new car of a completely original design to take on whoever it is that is dominating LMP1. I would want no less from them.

Chris

porsche91722 · 28 Dec 2007, 06:15 (Ref:2095612)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jonerz

I hope natural competition is allowed to grow freely in motorsport and we all not have our eyes clouded over by the desire for large fields with so-called factory teams. If you build it they will come. Ideally Porsche will come with their own brand-new car of a completely original design to take on whoever it is that is dominating LMP1. I would want no less from them.

Chris

We wait with eager anticipation. With the natural progression of the P2 Spyder and the new regs for 2010 hopefully we may see a P1 contender soon........maybe......

Fogelhund · 28 Dec 2007, 12:35 (Ref:2095737)

Quote:

Originally Posted by PORSCHE917[22]

We wait with eager anticipation. With the natural progression of the P2 Spyder and the new regs for 2010 hopefully we may see a P1 contender soon........maybe......

I believe those 2010 regs have been abandoned, so there is nothing stopping them from moving up now. (well except board approval

) Let's hope we see them in 09' move up.

The Badger · 4 Jan 2008, 14:17 (Ref:2099293)

[QUOTE=Bentley03]but beyond those two, how many from across the Pond? QUOTE]

I thought Consus mentioned that they were interested ..... but im not sure if they still exist ? I thought kelleners had signed for them last year ?

Dyson only talks about it , Penske doesnt seem interested and CET probably dont exist either .

2 or 3 would be plenty in my opinion anyway .

Zytek_Fan · 6 Jan 2008, 06:15 (Ref:2100446)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fogelhund

Suggestions are these reg changes have been abandoned.

That's the word that has been floating around for a while. Which explains why Aston would want to do a P1 car now.

Zytek_Fan · 6 Jan 2008, 06:18 (Ref:2100447)

[quote=The Badger]

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bentley03

but beyond those two, how many from across the Pond? QUOTE]

I thought Consus mentioned that they were interested ..... but im not sure if they still exist ? I thought kelleners had signed for them last year ?

Dyson only talks about it , Penske doesnt seem interested and CET probably dont exist either .

2 or 3 would be plenty in my opinion anyway .

Mr. Penske has stated several times he has no interest in running Le Mans.

Is CET actually going to show up this season? There's pics of a car with their livery on their website...

It would be interesting to see how a RS Spyder would fair at Le Mans. They have shown to be fragile before, so I don't think they could go the whole 24 hours without a problem...

**Bentley03** · 6 Jan 2008, 07:42 (Ref:2100462)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zytek_Fan

Mr. Penske has stated several times he has no interest in running Le Mans.

Mr Penske has stated several times that he would love to take his team Le Mans!

Porsche and his sponsors, however, would appear unwilling to fund it (or perhaps the ACO have said to Porsche that their works/factory team would not be welcome in LMP2 at Le Mans? Note the Acura u-turn).

Similar Threads
Thread	Thread Starter	Forum	Replies	Last Post
Are there any differnces between a Porsche carerra cup Porsche and GT3 class Porsche?	SALEEN S7R	Sportscar & GT Racing	25	6 Feb 2008 21:06
What is the differnce between the Porsche 996 and Porsche 911 GT3'rs?	SALEEN S7R	Sportscar & GT Racing	12	28 Mar 2003 11:36