[LM24] Le Mans 2018 Entry List Speculation

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DSC says some of the "sure" auto entries might not be taken up, incl perhaps the two AAIs, so thay should free some room.

35 minutes until the conference, 30 till start of the Youtube stream, 20 till RLM coverage!

[Truckosaurus]

Do the likes of DSC and RLM have an embargoed copy of the entry list already, or are they hearing/seeing the names at the same time as us punters?

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Originally Posted by Truckosaurus

Do the likes of DSC and RLM have an embargoed copy of the entry list already, or are they hearing/seeing the names at the same time as us punters?

No they don't, they will learn just as we do

Too bad the ACO will likely rush through the entries again (when they eventually get to them after hour of PR speeches) so there won't be much time for initial reaction. Maybe they'd have learned their lesson, but the ELMS social media thing yesterday wasn't particularly promising on that front

Anyway not long to go:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lTYgPncXzAA
http://player.radiolemans.co/

(thank god these have been in youtube in recent seasons, I'm sure most of us remember the horrid breaking apart Dailymotion-only years)

[Simmi]

Exciting times. Expecting Chiana to be up to 10,000 posts by this evening haha

Fingers crossed we get a great list.

[rdjones]

I am stuck at work but I will be following along via Twitter the best I can.

[Koenigsegg]

Very surprised to see the BAR1 Riley at the back of the Reserves list. Seems like FIA/ACO is only acknowledging 3 P2 manufacturers.

[Simmi]

Healthy reserve list this year. Really just want to see the various ACO PDF entry lists at this point to pour over the details.

[Koenigsegg]

Also 4 JCDC Racing P2's at Le Mans. According to the entry lists, the 2 WEC cars are Oreca and the 2 extra Le Mans cars are Ligier. Maybe a typo? Or this is how they can justify running 4 cars under the same umbrella?

[rdjones]

So the entry looks like this:-

LMP1

1 - Rebellion Racing - Rebellion
3 - Rebellion Racing - Rebellion
4 - Bykolles Racing - ENSO CLM
5 - CEFC TRSM Racing - Ginetta
6 - CEFC TRSM Racing - Ginetta
7 - Toyota Gazoo Racing - Toyota
8 - Toyota Gazoo Racing - Toyota
10 - Dragonspeed - BR Engineering BR1
11 - SMP Racing - BR Engineering BR1
17 - SMP Racing - BR Engineering BR1
LMP2

22 - United Autosports - Ligier
23 - Panis Barthez Competition - Ligier
28 - TDS - Oreca
25 - Algarve Pro Racing - Ligier
26 - G-Driver Racing - Oreca
29 - Racing Team Nererland - Dallara
31 - Dragonspeed - Oreca
32 - United Autosports - Ligier
33 - Jackie Chan DC Racing - Ligier
34 - Jackie Chan DC Racing - Ligier
35 - SMP Racing - Dallara
36 - Signatech Apline - Apline
37 - Jackie Chan DC Racing - Oreca
38 - Jackie Chan DC Racing - Oreca
39 - Graff-SO24 - Oreca
44 - Eurasia Motorsport - Ligier
47 - Cetilar Villorba Corse - Dallara
48 - IDEC Sport - Ligier
50 - Larbre - Ligier

LMGTE Pro

51 - AF Corse - Ferrari
52 - AF Corse - Ferrari
63 - Corvette Racing - Corvette
64 - Corvette Racing - Corvette
66 - Ford Chip Ganassi Team UK - Ford
67 - Ford Chip Ganassi Team UK - Ford
68 - Ford Chip Ganassi Team USA - Ford
69 - Ford Chip Ganassi Team USA - Ford
71 - AF Corse - Ferrari
81 - BMW Team MTEK - BMW
82 - BMW Team MTEK - BMW
91 - Porsche GT Team - Porsche
92 - Porsche GT Team - Porsche
93 - Porsche GT Team - Porsche
94 - Porsche GT Team - Porsche
95 - Aston Martin Racing - Aston Martin
97 - Aston Martin Racing - Aston Martion

LMGTE AM

54 - Spirit of Race - Ferrari
56 - Team Project 1 - Porsche
61 - Clearwater Racing - Ferrari
70 - MR Racing - Ferrari
77 - Dempsey-Proton - Porsche
86 - Gulf Racing - Porsche
88 - Dempsey-Proton - Porsche
90 - TF Sport - Aston Martin
98 - Aston Marting Racing - Aston Martin

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PDFs:
LM https://assets.lemans.org/explorer/p...-mans-2018.pdf
WEC http://bo.fiawec.com/assets/ressourc...ist_080218.pdf

Quite a bit of thinking/analyzing to be done tonight

[Coach Ep]

Originally Posted by Koenigsegg

Also 4 JCDC Racing P2's at Le Mans. According to the entry lists, the 2 WEC cars are Oreca and the 2 extra Le Mans cars are Ligier. Maybe a typo? Or this is how they can justify running 4 cars under the same umbrella?

This certainly is one of the bigger surprises (well done Graham!), don't believe it's a typo - at all!

With one Jacques Nicolet being listed as the designated driver it opens the door to some wild speculation here: is JCDC-Jota going P1 with Ligier in the near future...?

[canaglia]

Honestly, I still have some concerns about ginetta two cars effort; won't be surprised if this will be only for first 2 races and last 2.
A bit disappointed to have only 7 lmp2 full season, last year has been the best class of the whole championship. Huge effort for JCDC with 2 orecas and 2 ligiers.

Nice third car addition for AF Corse, the less expected addition considering how poor and limited is ferrari effort in that.

[Deleted]

Some points randomly that came to mind:
- Second Manor which is great but also full season (not just LM) and no LMP2
- Larbre not just "special entry" but full season
- Single fake 'Alpine'
- No JDC Miller taking the invite (I bet BAR1 is cursing now)
- Four Jotas, even if the Onroaks probably run in conjunction with someone else
- Dragonspeed bronze "special dispensation" in LMP1, you'd think them to just have fake-upgraded the amateur to silver
- Smaller GTE-AM than feared (thankfully)
- KCMG with Dallara reserve
- Bottom reserves for Riley (honestly surprised), Bratislava and Krohn
- Not 10 reserves

[canaglia]

Originally Posted by Koenigsegg

Also 4 JCDC Racing P2's at Le Mans. According to the entry lists, the 2 WEC cars are Oreca and the 2 extra Le Mans cars are Ligier. Maybe a typo? Or this is how they can justify running 4 cars under the same umbrella?

Very likely JCDC will be the banner name for an OAK "official" effort at le mans, like they did in past with ESM and G-drive.

[rdjones]

Just looking at the list again pretty much what was expected.

I think the big surprise is the 4 cars from Jackie Chan/Jota but as other have 2 of them appear to be linked with Onroak's.

Also for me from Yorkshire nice to see 2 Ginetta's on the list.

Roll on June

[Victor_RO]

10 Porsches in GTE overall. If all of them are at least LM2017-spec, then I'm going to have to invest in some proper ear protection...

[Articus]

Porsche and Ferrari are really the back bone of GTE, as usual (8 and 10 cars across the field). I wonder who Ferrari has lined up for driving seats other than the WEC regulars.

Calado, Rigon, Bird, Pier Guidi, Vilander

Fisichella is in the Spirit of the race entry I think

I wonder what Jaime Melo is doing these days....He doesn't have two GTE class victories for nothing...

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Well let's see how many I got right
http://tentenths.com/forum/showpost....&postcount=143

LMP1 10/10
LMP2 14/20
LMGTE-PRO 16/17
LMGTE-AM 11/13

Reserves: 3 in general (1 in order)

Class sizes: 4/4 (4/5 if reserves counted)

I guess it's not toooooooo terrible

[Koenigsegg]

Originally Posted by canaglia

Very likely JCDC will be the banner name for an OAK "official" effort at le mans, like they did in past with ESM and G-drive.

Before the entry list release, I was expecting it to be Larbre Competition this year. Indeed, now JCDC seems to be the official effort. Well, half of it.

Even though both G-Drive and United Autosports efforts are high quality, a bit surprised that 2 cars have been granted an entry for both of them. Considering KCMG and High Class Racing are on the reserves list, both with a Dallara (instead of another Oreca or Ligier), and high/decent quality as well.

[NSX_LeMans]

Originally Posted by Articus

I wonder what Jaime Melo is doing these days....He doesn't have two GTE class victories for nothing...

Got jailed again.

[Simmi]

Probably the weirdest thing for me is Rebellion taking the #1. Not sure if I've missed something here but what basis at all do they have to run this number?

[Simmi]

Rationale behind JDC-Miller not picking up their auto - http://sportscar365.com/lemans/wec/j...le-mans-entry/

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Some numbers...

Chassis mfg
1) Oreca 10+1
2) Porsche 10
3) Onroak 9+2
4) Ferrari 8+3
5) Dallara 6+2
6) Aston Martin 4 & Ford 4
8) Toyota 2 & Ginetta 2 & Chevrolet 2 & BMW 2
12) Kodewa/Adess/??? 1
13) Riley 0+1

Engine mfg
1) Zytek-Gibson 23+6
2) Porsche 10
3) Ferrari 8+3
4) Aston Martin 4 & Ford 4
6) Toyota 2 & AER 2 & Mecachrome 2 & Chevrolet 2 & BMW 2
11) Nissan 1

Tire mfg
1) Michelin 38+4
2) Dunlop 12+4
3) ***NOT ANNOUNCED*** 10+1

Originally Posted by Simmi

Probably the weirdest thing for me is Rebellion taking the #1. Not sure if I've missed something here but what basis at all do they have to run this number?

Toyota didn't win the championship last year but Rebellion did?

Or Toyota refused because of the historical value of #7/8 at LM (?) and Rebellion said they wanted #1 ahead of others. #1 and #3 form that Rebellion R13 of theirs which previously didn't make sense...

[Mike E]

Originally Posted by Simmi

Probably the weirdest thing for me is Rebellion taking the #1. Not sure if I've missed something here but what basis at all do they have to run this number?

They are running 1 and 3 on their Rebellion R13. I guess they asked nicely?

Edit: Oh, Chiana said the same.

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The tradition of rejected IMSA automatic invites continues after few year hiatus

2018: 1 of 2 accepted (50%)
2017: 2 of 2 accepted (100%)
2016: 2 of 2 accepted (100%)
2015: 1 of 2 accepted (50%)
2014: 0 of 2 accepted (0%)
2013: 2 of 3 accepted (66%)
(2012 and before did not have "selected at large" systems)