2020 VASC Silly Season

[Forda]

Remember Simona was in the running for a third 888 ride at the end of last year, but Team 18 came along and secured that option for themselves.

Possibly another wasted opportunity there, for both Simona and Team 18.

[Mixer]

Would have killed to see her slot into the Lowndes car but clearly Katie Page's dowry only allows a Kelly Krate budget.

[Umai Naa]

The Lowndes REC was an obligation to keep him in the Triple Eight fold full time.

The team would have needed significant incentive to keep that REC on the books. Whilst SdS is a capable and well-respected steerer, she doesn't have the star power of a Lowndes, a Courtney, or whoever else.

Perhaps she might've, way back when...

[thlbtcc]

Would loved to have seen Sutton involved somehow, sadly sounds like the door is closed. https://www.motorsport.com/v8superca...ivers/4546460/

[S griffin]

Maybe he's not what they need. So will have to find someone else

[GTRMagic]

Originally Posted by thlbtcc

Would loved to have seen Sutton involved somehow, sadly sounds like the door is closed. https://www.motorsport.com/v8superca...ivers/4546460/

There was noise around Andrew Jordan coming down here for a test earlier in the year, but nobody has said it happened... he is available after an Australian sponsor finishing up...

[one five five]

The last thing WAU needs is drivers new to the category of car.

Better off just keeping Pye

[thlbtcc]

Originally Posted by one five five

The last thing WAU needs is drivers new to the category of car.

Better off just keeping Pye

Absolutely, couldn't agree more, but the rumoured WAU Super 2 deal would have been nice to see.

[thlbtcc]

Originally Posted by GTRMagic

There was noise around Andrew Jordan coming down here for a test earlier in the year, but nobody has said it happened... he is available after an Australian sponsor finishing up...

He did well on Shannons Supercar Showdown back in the day and he's quick, but for me, Sutton has more potential.

[Forda]

Well it seems WAU are being a tad ungrateful for the Mobil 1 sponsorship they received, in lieu of the Mega deal falling over.
Ryan is even going on to say their international partnership should "open doors" for something more.

Let's be honest here - the 'international partnership' of WAU hasn't done very much at all for WAU. It's been a dismal failure to say the least, and has not capitalised on anything.

Compared to Penske, where they're including Scotty in international fitness challenges, running DJRTP results online in the US, and inspiring their collective teams in the US with what's going on 'downunder'.

And so this is the best WAU can do? - put out an underhanded call for sponsorship help, which could jeopardize the perpetual Brock-given legacy they inherited?

Maybe they should give the whole thing back to Skaife - wasn't it all legally his in the first place?

[bluesport]

Originally Posted by Forda

Well it seems WAU are being a tad ungrateful for the Mobil 1 sponsorship they received, in lieu of the Mega deal falling over.
Ryan is even going on to say their international partnership should "open doors" for something more.

Let's be honest here - the 'international partnership' of WAU hasn't done very much at all for WAU. It's been a dismal failure to say the least, and has not capitalised on anything.

Compared to Penske, where they're including Scotty in international fitness challenges, running DJRTP results online in the US, and inspiring their collective teams in the US with what's going on 'downunder'.

And so this is the best WAU can do? - put out an underhanded call for sponsorship help, which could jeopardize the perpetual Brock-given legacy they inherited?

Maybe they should give the whole thing back to Skaife - wasn't it all legally his in the first place?

That's true, the WAU/Andretti alliance hasn't produced anything like the DJR/TP relationship.

[Mixer]

Originally Posted by bluesport

That's true, the WAU/Andretti alliance hasn't produced anything like the DJR/TP relationship.

Probably more than ten million reasons for that.

You could also say that RP has the ruthless streak that TW had (to both their detriment when it comes to abiding by rules)

DJ walky would perhaps be missing that.

[Forda]

Tom Walkinshaw and Roger Penske are polar opposites.

TW was ruthless, burned bridges, had companies go broke; and frequently cheated when he was racing. Not many have a nice word to say about him at all.

RP is humble, runs profitable enterprises, gives subordinates freedom, doesn't turnover drivers frequently; and shows a great deal of humility.

[Mixer]

Arguably RP has been caught more times and in way bigger ways than Tom was, but you could also say both of them were competitive in series that are and were known for bending the rules.

Roger absolutely thinks nothing of bending the rules if he can get away with it.

If he ever got to the point of a tell all book that would be one you couldn't put down. I wonder just what he has gotten away with over the years!

[bluesport]

Originally Posted by Forda

Tom Walkinshaw and Roger Penske are polar opposites.

TW was ruthless, burned bridges, had companies go broke; and frequently cheated when he was racing. Not many have a nice word to say about him at all.

RP is humble, runs profitable enterprises, gives subordinates freedom, doesn't turnover drivers frequently; and shows a great deal of humility.

Vastly different personalities, it is ridiculous for anyone to suggest otherwise.

[rich07]

Originally Posted by bluesport

That's true, the WAU/Andretti alliance hasn't produced anything like the DJR/TP relationship.

Id say the biggest factor in that is that it’s one team owner v three.

With Penske it’s a matter of let’s just do this. It’s one single owner who might have a lot of fingers in a lot of pies but has put in motion a group over here with one singular focus. To win and to win at all costs. You only have to look at what Penske has done with DJR since he arrived.

WAU on the other hand has three owners and those three owners whilst they be successful in their own right just don’t have the same ruthless pursuit of victory that Penske has. Not to mention those three have their own interests in other things to distract them from the Supercars programme. Whilst the three have some money between them it doesn’t look like enough is going into the Supercars programme..

[bluesport]

Originally Posted by rich07

Id say the biggest factor in that is that it’s one team owner v three.

With Penske it’s a matter of let’s just do this. It’s one single owner who might have a lot of fingers in a lot of pies but has put in motion a group over here with one singular focus. To win and to win at all costs. You only have to look at what Penske has done with DJR since he arrived.

WAU on the other hand has three owners and those three owners whilst they be successful in their own right just don’t have the same ruthless pursuit of victory that Penske has. Not to mention those three have their own interests in other things to distract them from the Supercars programme. Whilst the three have some money between them it doesn’t look like enough is going into the Supercars programme..

You may be correct with your analysis, the bottom line is that WAU hasn't come close to matching DJR/TP for whatever reasons.

[cavvy]

Originally Posted by Forda

Well it seems WAU are being a tad ungrateful for the Mobil 1 sponsorship they received, in lieu of the Mega deal falling over.
Ryan is even going on to say their international partnership should "open doors" for something more.

Let's be honest here - the 'international partnership' of WAU hasn't done very much at all for WAU. It's been a dismal failure to say the least, and has not capitalised on anything.

Compared to Penske, where they're including Scotty in international fitness challenges, running DJRTP results online in the US, and inspiring their collective teams in the US with what's going on 'downunder'.

And so this is the best WAU can do? - put out an underhanded call for sponsorship help, which could jeopardize the perpetual Brock-given legacy they inherited?

Maybe they should give the whole thing back to Skaife - wasn't it all legally his in the first place?

the Mobil 1 sponsorship: did money change hands?
A blank canvas would be a bad look !

[V12muscleman]

Originally Posted by Forda

Well it seems WAU are being a tad ungrateful for the Mobil 1 sponsorship they received, in lieu of the Mega deal falling over.
Ryan is even going on to say their international partnership should "open doors" for something more.

Let's be honest here - the 'international partnership' of WAU hasn't done very much at all for WAU. It's been a dismal failure to say the least, and has not capitalised on anything.

Compared to Penske, where they're including Scotty in international fitness challenges, running DJRTP results online in the US, and inspiring their collective teams in the US with what's going on 'downunder'.

And so this is the best WAU can do? - put out an underhanded call for sponsorship help, which could jeopardize the perpetual Brock-given legacy they inherited?

Maybe they should give the whole thing back to Skaife - wasn't it all legally his in the first place?

Why ungrateful? The Mobil 1 sponsorship was for Pukke only. Do you not understand how sponsorship and budgets work? Appears that you’re simply trying to be negative about RW and TW and in the same breath positive about RP, which suggests a bias.. 🙄

RP has also had company’s go bust, its part of business for any entrepreneur. As for cheating, RP has a notorious reputation for cheating in motorsport in the US. So your points are incorrect.

[V12muscleman]

Originally Posted by bluesport

You may be correct with your analysis, the bottom line is that WAU hasn't come close to matching DJR/TP for whatever reasons.

Hasn’t the WAU partnership only been operational for a season and a half? I thought it took 3 years or so for Penske to win a race, something that WAU have already achieved together...

Let’s also not pretend that WAU, even with the collective business and financial clout of their owners, have the same resource and piggy bank as a billionaire like RP. If you knew the budget of DJRTP compared to other teams your eyes would water...

[V12muscleman]

Originally Posted by Mixer

Arguably RP has been caught more times and in way bigger ways than Tom was, but you could also say both of them were competitive in series that are and were known for bending the rules.

Roger absolutely thinks nothing of bending the rules if he can get away with it.

If he ever got to the point of a tell all book that would be one you couldn't put down. I wonder just what he has gotten away with over the years!

Correct Mixer.

[GTRMagic]

...gone?

[tobyobi]

Originally Posted by GTRMagic

...gone?

Simona was already the test driver for Venturi.

So maybe?

[Umai Naa]

Being in the Porsche family, opens up a lot of options to race wherever she pleases and be competitive in doing so.

Trying to drag a nobbled Nissan up the order can't be as rewarding as it sounds.

[E.B]

Tickford Racing has signed new two year agreements with Cameron Waters and his entry’s title sponsor, Monster Energy

https://www.speedcafe.com/2019/10/03...ameron-waters/