Minardi Team USA (merged) - Page 3

marcus · 13 Nov 2006, 21:54 (Ref:1765358)

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Originally Posted by alonso11

well courtney been outta openwheelers for quite a while now eh, did he race at all this season?

James Courtney returned home to Australia this year to race V8 Supercars , he has also re-signed for next year with the Stone Brothers racing Team in V8's so will not be going anywhere.

he proved a little chaotic at first with several big crashes , but by mid season he was keeping on track and the last few rounds he has been qualifying and racing well inside the top 10 (in fact he finished 3rd at the Bathurst 1000 with Glenn Seton as his co driver)

now back to the question at hand , why does everyone assume that Stoddart will put an ex minardi driver(s) in the car(s) ???

maybe someone else is waiting in the wings , Adam carroll perhaps , or Hunter Raey or could be anyone ?

indycool · 13 Nov 2006, 22:00 (Ref:1765362)

mac, I don't know why KK wasn't "allowed." Could you elaborate? He owns the series and owns at least his own team.

BootsOntheSide · 13 Nov 2006, 22:12 (Ref:1765367)

One Australian is enough from a commercial point of view, and there are a lot of talented drivers queuing up to get into ChampCar, so I don't know why Stoddart would specifically hire an Australian driver.

outflat · 13 Nov 2006, 22:13 (Ref:1765369)

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Originally Posted by marcus

now back to the question at hand , why does everyone assume that Stoddart will put an ex minardi driver(s) in the car(s) ???

I'm sure I read somewhere him saying both his drivers will be ex-Minardi

marcus · 13 Nov 2006, 22:23 (Ref:1765375)

oh yeah come to think of it I may have heard that as well.

Ok I will shut up now LOL

ozrevhead · 13 Nov 2006, 22:30 (Ref:1765378)

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Originally Posted by outflat

I'm sure I read somewhere him saying both his drivers will be ex-Minardi

so ryan misses out again.....

FFS

Nado · 13 Nov 2006, 23:35 (Ref:1765402)

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Originally Posted by BootsOntheSide

One Australian is enough from a commercial point of view, and there are a lot of talented drivers queuing up to get into ChampCar, so I don't know why Stoddart would specifically hire an Australian driver.

It'd be the same reason I'd hire an Australian

D70s · 14 Nov 2006, 00:03 (Ref:1765413)

Derrick Walker is not Australian. He's Scottish.

mountainstar · 14 Nov 2006, 00:30 (Ref:1765425)

I think we can put a squash on one thing is that nowhere stoddart is quoted as specifically ruling out a driver of australian nationality.

Courtney rolled over and quit single seaters years ago.

I don't believe the "briscoe was blocked by gore from racing in champcar" because ultimately briscoe did drive in the series.

D.R.T. · 14 Nov 2006, 00:43 (Ref:1765431)

Indycool where on earth did you get Derrick Walker being an Australian. If only we could swap him with Gore.

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Originally Posted by mountainstar

I don't believe the "briscoe was blocked by gore from racing in champcar" because ultimately briscoe did drive in the series.

Yes because said person didnt have the same leverage with Russo as he did with KK.

JohnSSC · 14 Nov 2006, 01:57 (Ref:1765459)

Before we get into a major row about whether the driver will be/should be Australian or not I would want to see more details. Exactly how many seats will be available? Who is funding? Will drivers need to bring their own $$, etc.

mac · 14 Nov 2006, 03:45 (Ref:1765484)

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Originally Posted by indycool

mac, I don't know why KK wasn't "allowed." Could you elaborate? He owns the series and owns at least his own team.

I've elaborated several times on these boards previously.

Let's just say it relates to the same reason you never hear Ryan Briscoe's name (at least in informed circles) considered with any serious employment opportunities at Team Australia anymore.

mac · 14 Nov 2006, 03:50 (Ref:1765486)

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Originally Posted by mountainstar

I don't believe the "briscoe was blocked by gore from racing in champcar" because ultimately briscoe did drive in the series.

For a team that has no connection to the ownership of the series.

mountainstar · 14 Nov 2006, 05:12 (Ref:1765505)

The only problem(s) mac:
1. This has yet to made public. If miller or ar1 or indycool had gotten a whiff of this they would have been all over it.
2. Who's your source?
3. If briscoe was having his career blocked by another team owner who he had no contractual ties with you'd figure he would have made that public.

Whatever the real story is, that aside, I'm sure briscoe is being considered by several teams.

scramble · 14 Nov 2006, 06:41 (Ref:1765530)

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Originally Posted by mac

For a team that has no connection to the ownership of the series.

Mac you have been talking this rubbish about Gore blocking Briscoe for way to long. There are a number of teams that dont have an association with Kalkovan why didnt they give him a drive earlier in the year? I would say it was more about the amount of money he wanted to drive. Team Aus is one of the smallest budget teams in the series and cant afford to pay superstar rates.

mac · 14 Nov 2006, 07:08 (Ref:1765540)

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Originally Posted by scramble

Mac you have been talking this rubbish about Gore blocking Briscoe for way to long. There are a number of teams that dont have an association with Kalkovan why didnt they give him a drive earlier in the year? I would say it was more about the amount of money he wanted to drive. Team Aus is one of the smallest budget teams in the series and cant afford to pay superstar rates.

scramble, it's funny that the only times I ever see your name on the boards is defending Gore - balanced view?

Your notion of Briscoe wanting too much cash is fine in theory - doesn't quite explain how he ended up driving for the "poverty-stricken" Dreyer & Reinbold team in the IRL though ....

Back on topic ...

Does anyone know anything new about Stoddart's plans?

D.R.T. · 14 Nov 2006, 10:20 (Ref:1765731)

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Originally Posted by JohnSSC

Before we get into a major row about whether the driver will be/should be Australian or not I would want to see more details. Exactly how many seats will be available? Who is funding? Will drivers need to bring their own $$, etc.

How many seats available ?
Two Minardi (if she comes off) - Funding from drivers shouldnt be needed.

Potentially two Rusport seats (depending how that comes off)

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Originally Posted by scramble

Team Aus is one of the smallest budget teams in the series and cant afford to pay superstar rates.

Are they really. I like to see there budgest compared to DCR, CTE HVM, Conquest and even Rocketsports for that matter. TA was one of the teams that didnt require drivers bringing money.

JohnSSC · 14 Nov 2006, 10:51 (Ref:1765761)

No offense, but since there has been no announcement there is only speculation as to what folks think may be out there.

Has there been any noises made by Stoddart as to when he hopes to have a program in place?

indycool · 14 Nov 2006, 11:04 (Ref:1765774)

Who knows, John? Wiggins said in Miller's article at speedtv.com that they plan to run four cars but maybe three and speaks positively about their talks with Stoddart. Stoddart does NOT speak on that subject. In the same story, Miller reports Russo is gone but quotes Jeremy Dale as saying the team will stay. It doesn't say who or how. Stoddart did NOT reveal his plans at Mexico, so the thread title didn't come to pass. Time will tell.

StuiE · 14 Nov 2006, 11:12 (Ref:1765782)

Keith Wiggins

Do you think Stoddart has thought of an American driver?? who is coming up from the Atlantics?

mountainstar · 14 Nov 2006, 15:11 (Ref:1766002)

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Originally Posted by scramble

Mac you have been talking this rubbish about Gore blocking Briscoe for way to long. There are a number of teams that dont have an association with Kalkovan why didnt they give him a drive earlier in the year? I would say it was more about the amount of money he wanted to drive. Team Aus is one of the smallest budget teams in the series and cant afford to pay superstar rates.

Mac pm'ed me about his source and I'm more than satisfied he knows what he's talking about.

Whatever did happen in the past, let's hope it turns good for the future for briscoe. I think he did a great job when given the chance and let's hope he gets a drive next year.

mountainstar · 14 Nov 2006, 15:17 (Ref:1766004)

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Originally Posted by indycool

Who knows, John? Wiggins said in Miller's article at speedtv.com that they plan to run four cars but maybe three and speaks positively about their talks with Stoddart. Stoddart does NOT speak on that subject. In the same story, Miller reports Russo is gone but quotes Jeremy Dale as saying the team will stay. It doesn't say who or how. Stoddart did NOT reveal his plans at Mexico, so the thread title didn't come to pass. Time will tell.

Time will tell. Probably the reason stoddart is not talking much is because a deal is being concluded and that takes time. It looks like stoddart and wiggins get along quite well and will be working together in some form. Wiggins also mentioned how Cedric was making progress on the sponsorship front so it sounds like CTE will still be involved.

scramble · 15 Nov 2006, 00:47 (Ref:1766337)

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Originally Posted by mac

scramble, it's funny that the only times I ever see your name on the boards is defending Gore - balanced view?

Your notion of Briscoe wanting too much cash is fine in theory - doesn't quite explain how he ended up driving for the "poverty-stricken" Dreyer & Reinbold team in the IRL though ....

Back on topic ...

Does anyone know anything new about Stoddart's plans?

Because all of his other options ahd been blown and he didn't want to come back to Australia yet. And yes I defend Gore because I love an underdog, always have always will. Now lets get back on topic Mac old chap.

scramble · 15 Nov 2006, 00:58 (Ref:1766346)

Quote:

Originally Posted by mac

scramble, it's funny that the only times I ever see your name on the boards is defending Gore - balanced view?

Your notion of Briscoe wanting too much cash is fine in theory - doesn't quite explain how he ended up driving for the "poverty-stricken" Dreyer & Reinbold team in the IRL though ....

Back on topic ...

Does anyone know anything new about Stoddart's plans?

Because all of his other options ahd been blown and he didn't want to come back to Australia yet. And yes I defend Gore because I love an underdog, always have always will. Now lets get back on topic Mac old chap.

scramble · 15 Nov 2006, 00:59 (Ref:1766347)

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Originally Posted by mountainstar

Mac pm'ed me about his source and I'm more than satisfied he knows what he's talking about.

Whatever did happen in the past, let's hope it turns good for the future for briscoe. I think he did a great job when given the chance and let's hope he gets a drive next year.

Hey Mac. PM me with your sorce or make it public.

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