murphy

rocket · 2 Jul 2003, 07:34 (Ref:649258)

this will probably cause a sh*t fight but WTF

after what happened at darwin should murphy take a step back & look at his driving, he has now been involved in two incidents of turning another car around shortly after the start (bargs @ philip island & ingall @ darwin), after all he did say he would do it again, does he have a problem with giving other drivers room or is it a case of just being in the wrong place at the wrong time twice

Conrod Kieron · 2 Jul 2003, 07:57 (Ref:649273)

I believe in both cases, Spud could have backed off and nothing would have happend, his comments after the Bargs incident was disgraceful but it does look like he 'got to do it again' @ HV, although with the rider that I consider the outcome a racing incident.

Onlooker · 2 Jul 2003, 08:34 (Ref:649304)

Good plan.
I'll turn Ingall around

what could possibly go wrong with that

,this ain't gonna come back and bite me.

,worked with Bargs in fact havent really seen him in front of me much at alll since

jetsetter · 2 Jul 2003, 09:28 (Ref:649344)

In all fairness to Murphy there wasn't a camera angle to incriminate him so i think it's unfair for him to carry the blame with no evidence especially with the other driver being Ingall who himself is hardly an angel in matters of driving courtesy.

Amaroo Park · 2 Jul 2003, 10:34 (Ref:649395)

Isn't it strange how every time there is a drama in a rcae it seems to nearly always involve Murphy.

Mattracer · 2 Jul 2003, 10:50 (Ref:649419)

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Originally posted by colinbond
Isn't it strange how every time there is a drama in a rcae it seems to nearly always involve Murphy.

Yeah, and I think you'll find a few years ago, the man in the black hat was Ingall, who attracted all sorts of fines, penalties and derision from all and sundry. Heck, he had a wing at CAMS named after him, didn't he?

This time, there was an armco railing between Ingall and Murphy, and at PI, there is no barrier close to the side of the road. Ingall didn't seem to move across in the brief footage seen on Ten, and Murphy did not appear to lift or avoid contact with car #9. Seems that barriers don't move, and neither does Ingall or Murphy. Result?

A prang in front of the whole race. :confused:

**gomick** · 2 Jul 2003, 11:45 (Ref:649488)

its so hard to overtake at the front of the pack..... with murphy and ingall always up there, they are always going to be involved in incidents - let the b*tchfighting continue

Armco Bender · 3 Jul 2003, 02:24 (Ref:650398)

Go Murph Ram the buggers if they don't get out your way.

champcarman · 3 Jul 2003, 03:57 (Ref:650420)

The common denominator in most recent incidents has been Greg Murphy. After what happened at Darwin perhaps some of the critics after Winton will have second thoughts. I think Murf has been in the wrong place at the wrong time but he seems to get involved in a lot of these types of incidents. Generally though the driving standards have improved in recent years and I hope criticism of Colin Bond etc. after Winton does not weaken their resolve to keep the sport clean.

**GTRMagic** · 3 Jul 2003, 07:28 (Ref:650465)

Its a shame Murf to Europe and Murf to the USA never got up, I mean he could be over there bleating to a few hundred million different people instead of just us all the time!

DAVID PATERSON · 3 Jul 2003, 08:26 (Ref:650509)

In the footage I've seen Murphy doesn't appear to be moving across on Ingall and if you're just going forward on the straight, how can you be in the wrong?

Amaroo Park · 3 Jul 2003, 08:59 (Ref:650538)

Common rule of racing I thought was is to avoid accidents I mean if the bloke can't avoid an accident in a straight line then he has problems, just ask Bargwanna. See thats what steering wheels are placed in cars for so you can ajust them left and right and avoid things. In all the HQ races I did I managed not to run into anyone at the start and if any category would have those sorts of probs it would be HQ's

rocket · 3 Jul 2003, 09:35 (Ref:650571)

my point exactly colin, as murph was the most rearward car in both these incidents i think the onus is on him to give a bit of room, after all the race isnt won in the first 400m

promax · 3 Jul 2003, 10:14 (Ref:650606)

Murph starts in front of Ingall.. Ingall tries to force his way pass Murph .. Murph keeps line... Ingall eats armco barrier

So what is the problem again? lol

Gunslinger · 4 Jul 2003, 09:50 (Ref:651823)

I stuck up for Murph at Winton, but this latest incident with Ingall looked a little suspect. Maybe Murphy should've allowed Ingall to pass, he almost had anyway with a better start. Watching the replay there apears to be no sideways movement from either driver?

Quote:

Seems that barriers don't move, and neither does Ingall or Murphy. Result?

I like the way you put that Mattracer. Could it be that Murf squeezed Ingall into/toward the armco? Anyway, i reckon Murf was very very lucky to get away with that one.

Mattracer · 4 Jul 2003, 10:14 (Ref:651839)

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Originally posted by Gunslinger
Watching the replay there apears to be no sideways movement from either driver?

Could it be that Murf squeezed Ingall into/toward the armco? Anyway, i reckon Murf was very very lucky to get away with that one.

Yup, there is no weaving, blocking , squeezing or edging over from either driver, and in any case, as I said, there is an armco barrier all the way along the straight right at the edge of the road so there is no room to move if your car is on the left side of the circuit as Ingall was.

Two tough nuts who won't back off until after the other one does.

Murf didn't look lke he squeezed Ingall, and Ingall was driving a straight line down the lh side. Murphy got away because there was no clear evidence of a squeeze or a TGF "one move" caper from Ingall.

Mattracer · 4 Jul 2003, 10:15 (Ref:651841)

If anything, one could presume that Murphy did not realise that Ingall had no room to move on the left and assumed there was room for bothe cars that far to the left of the road. Innocent mistake? Quite possibly.

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