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Old 28 Oct 2019, 02:10 (Ref:3937250)   #91
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Trevor should be qualifying in the top 10 on the grid
oh, but it does make for an interesting 'fight for the championship' at the end of the year.

Would the numbers be down for TV and through the gate if Scott won the championship on the weekend - You betcha. Would Supercars be unhappy about that - you betcha

Oh, the sceptic is me is yelling "foul play" but the game goes on
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Old 28 Oct 2019, 02:20 (Ref:3937253)   #92
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Would accept that if he crashed during the shootout. He had already put in two laps that would get him in the shootout though...even when they took away his fastest lap due to causing the red flag he still would have been second-last out in the shootout (if he still had a car).

There was no need for him to try to lower his time even further given there was still the shoot-out to come.
The answer would be due to the 888 cars being up to nearly three tenths quicker than car 17, during the prior day's race.

He would have simply been looking to find that extra pace.
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Old 28 Oct 2019, 02:49 (Ref:3937255)   #93
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bluesport is heading for a stewards' enquiry!
Parity changes are only ever made to help holden teams so Ford supporters shouldn't hold their breath waiting for any relief.
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Old 28 Oct 2019, 04:37 (Ref:3937262)   #94
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oh, but it does make for an interesting 'fight for the championship' at the end of the year.

Would the numbers be down for TV and through the gate if Scott won the championship on the weekend - You betcha. Would Supercars be unhappy about that - you betcha

Oh, the sceptic is me is yelling "foul play" but the game goes on
Are you suggesting...what are you suggesting? Supercars put 17-specific magnets in the walls? How did they ensure he had a DNS?

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The answer would be due to the 888 cars being up to nearly three tenths quicker than car 17, during the prior day's race.

He would have simply been looking to find that extra pace.
He was in qualifying trim, he wasn't looking for race pace, and what you said does not align with his own description of what happened.
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Old 28 Oct 2019, 04:58 (Ref:3937263)   #95
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He was in qualifying trim, he wasn't looking for race pace, and what you said does not align with his own description of what happened.
Scotty said: "We were trying to do a shootout lap then, I was practicing for the (Armor All Top 10) Shootout."

That can be interpreted however you want, but it sounds like he wanted to be at the front, presumably given the faster pace 888 had on him in the prior race.

And 888's faster race pace is really what the topic is currently about.
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Old 28 Oct 2019, 05:34 (Ref:3937264)   #96
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And 888's faster race pace is really what the topic is currently about.
So why bring up the crashes in qualy?

Thought the pace of 17 was on par with 97 and 888 - but with aero as it is now, and turn 4 being the only place to pass at GC, you have an uphill battle if you don't have track position (unless you have much fresher tyres). 17 lost the race on Saturday when CL got Premat off the start. The (new) 17 car will be fastest again come Sandown.
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Old 28 Oct 2019, 05:43 (Ref:3937265)   #97
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Are you suggesting...what are you suggesting? Supercars put 17-specific magnets in the walls? How did they ensure he had a DNS?.
I am not suggesting anything, just throwing some odd thinking around, stranger things have happened
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Old 28 Oct 2019, 06:03 (Ref:3937268)   #98
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So why bring up the crashes in qualy?
Mixup brought it up one page back, possibly before taking his meds.

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Thought the pace of 17 was on par with 97 and 888 - but with aero as it is now, and turn 4 being the only place to pass at GC, you have an uphill battle if you don't have track position (unless you have much fresher tyres). 17 lost the race on Saturday when CL got Premat off the start. The (new) 17 car will be fastest again come Sandown.
Car 17 was nearly 3/10ths off car 97's best time in Saturday's race.

Whether a new chassis will be able to bridge the gap to 888's current form will remain to be seen, but if you were to compare 888's performance gains against the Mustang's since Auckland, it would be appear to be unlikely.
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Old 28 Oct 2019, 06:11 (Ref:3937270)   #99
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Mixer should be qualifying in the top 3 on the gridMixer should be qualifying in the top 3 on the gridMixer should be qualifying in the top 3 on the gridMixer should be qualifying in the top 3 on the grid
I look forward to continued influence from our Daney overlords and for Scott to lose the unloseable.

I also raise a glass to those who after winning 3/4 of the races this year, are still complaining.
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Old 30 Nov 2019, 04:13 (Ref:3943804)   #100
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Fair bit of info out in the last week re the 2020 VCAT and Aero plans, along with other equalisation measures:

Reduced Aero Target and method of achieving it

VCAT testing process

More information on how the control dampers for 2020 will be managed
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Old 8 Jan 2020, 01:57 (Ref:3950305)   #101
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Mixer should be qualifying in the top 3 on the gridMixer should be qualifying in the top 3 on the gridMixer should be qualifying in the top 3 on the gridMixer should be qualifying in the top 3 on the grid
OMG the comments on Fb about the second round of testing are a dumpster fire and prove that the Ford fans can't be happy either way.

Last year they fluffed the test and played catch up all year. Cue whinging.

Clearly this year they are keen to avoid a recurrence and have a lot of new data, so they are going back for a second test, which is surely the right thing to do. The sport desperately needs to not repeat what happened last year, but it is apparently a conspiracy and all Roland's fault....
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Old 8 Jan 2020, 03:45 (Ref:3950308)   #102
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I stopped reading after 'Fb'. It's a cesspit for anything other than voices in echo chambers.
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Old 8 Jan 2020, 10:48 (Ref:3950374)   #103
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TCR uses a wind tunnel for aerodynamuc testing, and that's for over a dozen different models.

"The homologation process [of the MG6 TCR] included engine tests on the dynamometer bench at ORAL Engineering and aerodynamics tests in the Pininfarina wind tunnel"
https://www.tcr-series.com/news/item...on-formalities


Why Supercars are unable to do it for just two models defies belief!
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Old 23 Jan 2020, 11:21 (Ref:3952911)   #104
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Motorsport.com can reveal a key outcome from the re-homologation is that the Mustang's prominent rear wing has been moved 90 millimetres forward and lowered by 50 mm.

The positioning of the rear wing on the Holden Commodore will remain unchanged.

Both cars will be limited to the same rear wing angles, with a 13-degree maximum and a seven-degree minimum.

The Gurney flaps will be identical across the two cars, measuring 13 mm on the wing plane and the 10 mm on the boot.

The front diffusers will be significantly shallower on both cars as well, while the Holden will be able to run a longer undertray.

Another change at the front is centred on the Mustang's front bar, which will have a rounder profile on the outside of the brake cooling ducts.
https://au.motorsport.com/v8supercar...674598/?nrt=18

How curious. One hopes the VCAT testing has been done correctly, and Mustang runners will not be at an unjust disadvantage...
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Old 23 Jan 2020, 19:27 (Ref:3953000)   #105
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I can’t see how a car that dominated the last 1/3 of the season can remain relatively untouched and achieve 12% reduction in downforce by a wing angle limitation.

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