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8 Apr 2003, 05:28 (Ref:562395)
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Webber to Williams in 04
Just reading ITV website where it mentions that Frank Williams and Patrick Head are very interested in Mark Webber to replace Ralf Schumacher next year. I don't know how accurate this is but it would be great to see Webber next to Montoya. They seemed to be very impressed with Webber's performance at Brazil. I for one would love to see this happen, it would be fantastic. The way Webber performed at Brazil suggests to me that a podium or 2 this year wouldn't be to far fetched. Just have to wait and see. Any thoughts?
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8 Apr 2003, 05:59 (Ref:562405)
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It is too early to pick a new driver for next season, especially by just taking a look up and down the F1 grid and picking one because he's looked good so far. Everyone in F1 except the Minardis and Antonio Pizzonia has looked impressive. Whether that is because the new rules are making every finish a fluke or because these new rules expose the true talent of a driver, I don't know; it's just too soon. Heck, I wouldn't even rule out Sebastien Bourdais or Bruno Junqueira to be brought back over from CART next year to sit behind Montoya.
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8 Apr 2003, 07:21 (Ref:562436)
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I didnt think Ralf Schumacher was out of contract at the end of this year?
Webber is on a 2 year deal at Jaguar, and looks to be their sole asset at the moment... How much better would Pedro de la Rosa have been in the second seat than Pizzonia, especially if he copied Webber's settings.... I am not sure Ralph Firman has done much to assert his place in the field for Jordan, indeed the success of Fisico in Brazil overshadows Firman a lot! |
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8 Apr 2003, 09:29 (Ref:562533)
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A straight swap possibly - Ralf for Mark?
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8 Apr 2003, 09:31 (Ref:562537)
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god I hope it is not true
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8 Apr 2003, 09:32 (Ref:562541)
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Why would Jaguar want Ralf over Webber? Serious Question. I think if I was at Jag I would be happy with Webber. If Michael was offered then maybe I would swap but it would have to be someone of that Calibre.
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8 Apr 2003, 10:13 (Ref:562599)
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I think Webber has to be one of the favourites for the 2004 Williams drive. Ralf was a little better in Brazil, but still didn't look like a true topline driver. Meanwhile Webber really showed his potential, although the result didn't match the performance due to the late crash.
Even if Ralf is udner contract, I can imagine Frank breaking that to sign someone else - paying him off will cost a lot less than any kind of chassis improvement to make the same performance gain. It would be rough on Pizzonia, considering the mount of testing he's done for Williams, but, on sheer performance, he hasn't come anywhere close to Webber. Maybe they could offer Ralf and Gene as Jaguar's 2004 lineup? |
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8 Apr 2003, 10:41 (Ref:562622)
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It would certainly be pleasing to see Mark driving a Williams but i don't know how easily Jaguar would let him go.
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8 Apr 2003, 12:01 (Ref:562688)
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If Webber is only in his first of a 2 year deal (for what that's worth) perhap's William's should look at Justin Wilson, ok he fell off in Brazil but he was in good company and he had made up a hell of a lot of places just as he has in both of the other races. (He'd probably be cheaper too!)
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8 Apr 2003, 12:07 (Ref:562697)
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8 Apr 2003, 12:10 (Ref:562698)
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Fisichella to Williams
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8 Apr 2003, 12:41 (Ref:562738)
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sorry Glen I disagree Williams have a fantastic motor but thats it Williams have a long history of mistreating they drivers ie underpaying ,bagging them out in the press
I can think of better teams than Williams for Mark. I also think Jag will rise up from midfield Jag is moving up by the looks of it Williams is moving down town |
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8 Apr 2003, 12:55 (Ref:562753)
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Williams work their drivers hard - can't imagine Mark having a problem with that.
The car is getting better al the time - it could have won on Sunday and I'm sure it will win soon - I am equally certain that a Jaguar won't be winning ANY time soon! |
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8 Apr 2003, 13:58 (Ref:562818)
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Sad to say but Glen- Jaguar did get above mid field, most of the race, they started 3rd with webber held it and ran 4th most of the day, when he had dropped back he calmly made his way up into the points, Jaguar impressed me with the handling and webber's speed. If he stays at jaguar I hope he gets a great car in his remaining races, or Williams snags him, Ralf has not impressed as a car of that calibre should do better in his hands, JPM is just hot headed and loses it when he is leading. But at least you expect JPM to lead a GP if not win the thing. Ralf notso much any more.
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8 Apr 2003, 14:10 (Ref:562826)
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Mark Webber and Giancarlo Fisichella for Ferrari in 2004!!! Ughh... sorry, just dreaming...
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8 Apr 2003, 15:12 (Ref:562872)
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GT - certainly agree about Ralf, but not JPM!
Jaguar did do really well, at this race... but Interlagos is a funny circuit and the condidtions were strange too. If Jaguar have another race as good as that one I'll be (pleasantly) surprised - and even then I'd be more inclined to give credit to Webber than the car. On the same tyres they have got Renault and Williams ahead of them - quite a long way ahead of them - and on a similar mid-field level they've got Sauber and BAR to beat (regularly) before they can be considered to be making good progress. |
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8 Apr 2003, 16:13 (Ref:562922)
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Webber to Williams???
Frank has so big "junior team" that I would think that one of those drivers would get the seat. Outside that group Fisichella would be a dream come truth. |
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8 Apr 2003, 17:36 (Ref:563005)
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Oh yeah, Ralf as a cheap bonus... (or maybe not so cheap, he has BMW on his back I guess) 
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8 Apr 2003, 18:16 (Ref:563039)
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I don't know if it's true or if it's possible, but I am supporting any top seat for Webber ! As long as he can make some podiums, the best will be offered for him.
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8 Apr 2003, 18:24 (Ref:563046)
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At first I thought "shut up" but the more I look into this and read the articles (plural!!) the more this looks like a hot rumour!! Will post back!!
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8 Apr 2003, 18:41 (Ref:563062)
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i heard from someone who knows someone...that bigwigs reckon webber is one of the few who can get a team working in one direction...a la schuey.
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8 Apr 2003, 19:20 (Ref:563091)
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Webber would be quite a catch, I for one would love to see Mark and Juan matched up against each other
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8 Apr 2003, 19:31 (Ref:563103)
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Webber has a contracxt with Jaguar...and I dont think they want to have another full driver change for next season....RS...is still contracted till the end of 2004...and the fact that it comes from ITV...it's just speculation....
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8 Apr 2003, 19:54 (Ref:563132)
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I don't know if Webber is all that... He's definately good and I can't see Jaguar letting go of him. If he stays with them, they build the car to suite him (Which they'd be stupid not to) then there's hope for Shaguar yet. I imagine Ford will put them on a 'results for funds' deal.
Anyhow, Webber should see this as a chance to build a team up with himself. If he puts in hard yards with Jaguar fully working with him, he's got a decent shot at things. But it's to early still to say if he's going to be one of the top performers of the year. It's a long season. |
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8 Apr 2003, 23:34 (Ref:563407)
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Contract's don't really mean a great deal in F1 so i'd be suprised if Ralf is still with William's in 2004, maybe Frank would offer Jaguar a straight swap of drivers although i think Jaguar might want someone better than Ralf as a straight swap.
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