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Old 10 Sep 2021, 11:44 (Ref:4072926)   #301
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Now we will see what the real price is when the number crunchers who are going to front the money really get involved. It won't be what Skaife and cohorts want to pay it will be what the lenders want to give them after having a good look at the deal. No finance = no deal.
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Old 10 Sep 2021, 12:12 (Ref:4072931)   #302
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Will the teams still own their REC's if their stake is bought as part of the sellout?
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Old 11 Sep 2021, 06:24 (Ref:4073033)   #303
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Now we will see what the real price is when the number crunchers who are going to front the money really get involved. It won't be what Skaife and cohorts want to pay it will be what the lenders want to give them after having a good look at the deal. No finance = no deal.
Bruin Capital are the money & the chief has Nascar on his CV.
https://bruincptl.com/team/

The locals involved are Barclay Nettlefold and Craig Kelly, neither lightweights in a business sense.

Skaife is a figure head for the bid, important to the fans, the spin, no more.

I sense this bid does not require the teams to sell their 35% interest as the Adderton bid did.
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A bid hasn't been this exciting since Sir Speedy Thexalot danced the dance to extract himself and his Aussie partner in the Kiwi Rio Beverages business to Coca Cola in 2012.

A star was born that day... although we didn't know it a the time..

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Old 12 Sep 2021, 23:20 (Ref:4073496)   #305
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A bid hasn't been this exciting since Sir Speedy Thexalot danced the dance to extract himself and his Aussie partner in the Kiwi Rio Beverages business to Coca Cola in 2012.

A star was born that day... although we didn't know it a the time..

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Wasn't Cerebos Gregg's owned out of Singapore?

Speedy did well from the sale, and also the ongoing royalties
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Wasn't Cerebos Gregg's owned out of Singapore?

Speedy did well from the sale, and also the ongoing royalties
AU owned NZ and AU was owned by Singapore..
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Interesting interview with Peter Smith in Auto Action and his views on the bid for Supercars.
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Interesting interview with Peter Smith in Auto Action and his views on the bid for Supercars.
https://autoaction.com.au/2021/09/10...king-on-v8-bid

Edit: Just went to read the article I found / posted the link to.... sadly it is just a tease intro with a "click to subscribe and read the full article"..... Apologies

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Interesting interview with Peter Smith in Auto Action and his views on the bid for Supercars.
Did he say anything relevant here?
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Suggestion that Troy Bundy is to join the new Supercars management team following his departure from his role working on the Porsche Motorsport programme in Australia.
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Suggestion that Troy Bundy is to join the new Supercars management team following his departure from his role working on the Porsche Motorsport programme in Australia.
I rather preferred the body of work consistently brought by his older brother Al.. with Peg, Bud & Kelly in tow… paging Dr Shoe…
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Suggestion that Troy Bundy is to join the new Supercars management team following his departure from his role working on the Porsche Motorsport programme in Australia.
He's a good operator and if true, that would be a good move.
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I rather preferred the body of work consistently brought by his older brother Al.. with Peg, Bud & Kelly in tow… paging Dr Shoe…
And hopefully not at all like younger brother Ted
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Al would definitely have his hand on it
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The Aus reporting a new ownership group set to take control in a deal representing less than one-third of its previous sale value.

https://www.theaustralian.com.au/bus...3297f51f2cac78

In a transaction set to be announced as soon as Friday, Supercars will be sold in a $100.3m deal to The Australian Racing Group consortium and the TGI Sport consortium, which have joined forces to form one proposal after earlier competing against each other.

..... Supercars recorded “EBITDA before appearance and grid fees” of $23.8m from $118m revenue in 2019, the last completed year of racing that was not interrupted by Covid-19.'

More detail around profitability (ebitda) & the new owners & the expertise they bring to the business they are purchasing.
Well worth a read.
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So looks like there’ll be some more investment in the series, which should be nice. At least we keep most of the current team on board by the sounds of it. It’s taken time, but glad it’s come good.

Obviously last year wasn’t easy, but the series should be able to be more sustainable now, at least from next year, although it might take a bit to match previous heights for a while, but it’s a good start.

We’ll hear more as time goes on, but it sounds good by the sounds of it. Some outsider investing without taking over from those in the know. Thanks to the Aus for that article
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How long do we give the “partnership” before it breaks down and I’ve had to buy the other out?
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This really worries me. If Supercars and TCR are now kind of owned by the same body could TCR get swept up behind the Foxtel paywall ?

I stopped watching V8s and F1 when that happened in 2014, looks like it could happen again ?
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This really worries me. If Supercars and TCR are now kind of owned by the same body could TCR get swept up behind the Foxtel paywall ?

I stopped watching V8s and F1 when that happened in 2014, looks like it could happen again ?
ARG seem to have a close relationship with Channel 7, and the owners of ARG have so far seemed to think FTA is important to their product…..maybe this new ownership structure will see Supercars swing a little more back to FTA.

Depends on the TLA/TGI side, they are the ones more likely to favour the $$ signs of pay tv over looking after the sport.

I really don’t see the “partnership” lasting long term. Once they have the ownership, then they’ll battle themselves and one will buy the other out……
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ARG seem to have a close relationship with Channel 7, and the owners of ARG have so far seemed to think FTA is important to their product…..maybe this new ownership structure will see Supercars swing a little more back to FTA.

Depends on the TLA/TGI side, they are the ones more likely to favour the $$ signs of pay tv over looking after the sport.

I really don’t see the “partnership” lasting long term. Once they have the ownership, then they’ll battle themselves and one will buy the other out……
I dont see the value of the TV rights as the primary reason for the TLA/TGI involvement including funding from from TGI’s US-based owner, Bruin Sports Capital.

'The new owners were also undertaking a $25m capital raising led by advisory firm Henslow, with investors taking a large slice of the raising offered board seats and personalised VIP experiences at selected Supercars events.'

'A category of “value-add” shareholders would provide $6m in services such as billboards, radio promotion and industry expertise for two years before gaining ordinary shares.'

https://www.theaustralian.com.au/bus...3297f51f2cac78

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ARG seem to have a close relationship with Channel 7, and the owners of ARG have so far seemed to think FTA is important to their product…..maybe this new ownership structure will see Supercars swing a little more back to FTA.

Depends on the TLA/TGI side, they are the ones more likely to favour the $$ signs of pay tv over looking after the sport.

I really don’t see the “partnership” lasting long term. Once they have the ownership, then they’ll battle themselves and one will buy the other out……
Try this from May 2021 for a better idea of where the TLA/TGI group are coming from:
https://www.mediaweek.com.au/qms-com...sport-capital/
QMS Media (QMS) has announced that it has completed its strategic partnership with Bruin Capital (Bruin). The partnership will see Bruin and Quadrant Private Equity become co-owners of global sports technology company TGI Sport which includes TLA Worldwide (Aust) Pty Ltd and TLA – ESP Limited (UK).

TGI Global CEO, Barclay Nettlefold, said: “The completion of the deal forms a key component of our strategic vision as we set out to create a world leading technology led sports media business. The new partnership will build on TGI’s impressive growth, adding the strategic capabilities, capital and resources of Bruin to diversify and expand the company worldwide.

“We are well positioned to drive significant growth and meet our strategic and financial objectives, particularly with our investment into leading Parallel Advertising (PADS) multiplication technology which is revolutionising the way broadcasters and sporting bodies can segment and regionalise perimeter LED advertising.”

There's more thats about the business model rather than SuperCars, given it was ahead of bids closing.
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The sale of Supercars to RACE is due to be finalised this week.

Private outside investment is providing most of the funding in a partial pre-sale flotation.

Under the new ownership, Supercars will be run by a high-powered board of directors, possibly chaired by retiring Triple Eight team boss – and long-time V8 powerbroker – Roland Dane.

The RACE consortium will combine all of Australia’s major motor racing categories under one ownership and management group.
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Various media outlets (… and Adderton) are reporting the preferred consortium are going through a capital raising to actually get the $55M required.

Rather use others money than their own, thats how confident they are - what a mess!!!

Wonder if IPRA regulations will be in for the running of the 2022 championship?? :-D


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Various media outlets (… and Adderton) are reporting the preferred consortium are going through a capital raising to actually get the $55M required.

Rather use others money than their own, thats how confident they are - what a mess!!!

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Bit silly to spend your own money on an enterprise that's lost north of $250 million from it's value...
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Bit silly to spend your own money on an enterprise that's lost north of $250 million from it's value...

Unless you are 100% certain it has bottomed out… the capital raising suggests that might not the case :-/

Either way, its bad news


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