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There are two many edge effects here to compare too closely. Mid pack allows up and down. Front, only down. Back, only up.
Bu a couple of things jump out. And none of them about Russell. Lewis and Verstappen have done well in these stats considering the can’t go higher thing. Bottas has poor starts. And, those Alfa boys have done well and, while they can only go up, I feel that is very impressive. From both of them. I recall more of Kimi’s, but Antonio has done even better. Russell, what conclusions can we draw? Not many. I suspect the reason he is behind Latifi are just those edge effects. And Russell will very much have the opposite edge effect at the weekend. |
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Each year the team principles, i would assume with help from their teams, are asked who they think did the best and their results yeild a ranking of their top drivers.
Last year Russell finsihed 9th as a rookie. Clearly he is rated. |
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But in response to the original comment that '[Russell] normally manages to get to the back well within the first lap' - then I put forward the fact that he drops an average of just 0.07 places on the first lap, which represents just 0.45% of his qualifying performance being lost. |
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To get back onto the Covid test part of this thread, has any other member of the Mercedes team tested positive yet? Lewis must have got it from somewhere
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Rumour has it that Roscoe went on a bender with 23 hot pooches between races, shared a straw while snorting some ‘powder’ and passed it onto Lewis.
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Fantastic opportunity for George to step into Lewis shoes, unfortunate the COVID situation for Lewis just shows that all the precautions that formula 1 have put in place COVID still rises its ugly head.Just hope George takes it all in his stride and doesn’t let the pressure get to him! to be on par with Bottas or there or there about is all we can ask for a great chance for I hope a future star in F1.
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You do have to factor in retirements. Edge effect. How many places ahead of last position might tell us something (might).
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Can I go back to my post #121.
What or how can you factor into these figures the advantage gained by having tyres etc at optimum temps because if you are on the back row you are last to arrive at the grid? |
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For a normal grid I don’t think it is that critical. Front to back there could be a significant advantage, but you arrive only a short time after the guy in front who you are battling with.
Any advantage you have will be the same the whole way down the grid. 20th to 19th similar to 2nd to 1st. Although cooling isn’t linear and tyre operating temperature impact on performance isn’t linear either. Whatever, to your closest rivals, it is low. The only time we do see it being important is during a SC restart where they have allowed the lapped cars to pelt round to catch up. |
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But nobody has addressed the question
Where does he need to qualify and finish before we say "deserved the drive, showed talent, good job" What number is high enough to silence the critics and please his supporters? Say it before the race and then on monday we can all agree he was a hit/dud |
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IM gunna say top 6 qually and finish with no major crashes is a good result.
Anything better is star stuff below 8 ora BIG crash is ..."next please?" |
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It depends what happens!
Is the point of sport to be right about it? ‘cus I’ll tell you something we all know bugger all! Or is it to enjoy it? Let’s assume it is to enjoy it and this is just for fun rather than demonstrating internet prowess. We’ve gone so far up our own bottoms recently I worry the conversation after will be impossible. I hope I am wrong on this. Q 2nd is very good, 3rd good, 4th OK, 5th bit disappointed. Podium is good. 4th OK. I reserve the right to think he’s only done so so if he wins it and it’s been very good even if he ends up eighth. Can’t really judge till we see how it progresses as well as the result. |
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I heard an interesting snippet about George Russell on TV this morning. Apparently he is 5 inches taller than Lewis and one thing he is going to do to help him squeeze into the car this weekend is to go down from size 11 boots to size 10...
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If Russell gets the drive for Abu Dhabi we can probably make a more rounded judgement but, even then, not comprehensive. The only people who can judge properly are Mercedes themselves with the raw data, because us lot will all have different perspectives on whatever happens and possibly our own agendas. |
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Exactly, Merc will now be able to tell whether he's good enough for the seat and whether he has the work ethic too, regardless of results.
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Some in the team might just be able to spot the talent and if he gives good technical feedback, that would help him no end
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Russell has just gone first and Bottas is 0.3 behind. Maybe Mercedes won't sign Hamilton for next year.
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At the moment it looks like I might need to scrape some egg off my face to make some humble pie! Early days though LOL.
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