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Old 26 Nov 2009, 09:09 (Ref:2589545)   #31
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Besides, the most recent rumors i heard from the VW group/Porsche front is that Audi is scrapping the R15 after 2010, and developing a new 2011 racer, to fight against the new Peugeot and AMR.
How is that a rumour? The R15 won't be legal after 2010, of course they'll need a new car.
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Old 26 Nov 2009, 09:11 (Ref:2589548)   #32
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Old 26 Nov 2009, 09:28 (Ref:2589566)   #33
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How is that a rumour? The R15 won't be legal after 2010, of course they'll need a new car.
Modification could be made!?
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Old 26 Nov 2009, 10:01 (Ref:2589590)   #34
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The whole Idea that Porsche would choose Henri is a total rubbish one (sorry guys), IF Porsche wanted to make a come back to Le mans on a full time scale you can bet your bottom dollar that Weissach would go on there own, they have their own people who know Le mans better than Henri, and all the facilities and partners to create there own LMP, they wouldnt need to invest in Henri. I mean IF Porsche wanted to sell there engines to privateers to put in there own LMP chassies It would have been done by now. Now Im not saying Henri couldnt be part of a/the team, but it would all be done in Weissach, not throught Sora/Pesca. The best Henri could hope for is getting a Manufacture's car and running it as a privateer, akin to Porka 956/962's the 80's/90's, but still with the factory running there own team. (much Like Le-Mans this year with the 908)

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Old 26 Nov 2009, 13:13 (Ref:2589695)   #35
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didn't Henri sell Pescarolo Sport to Sora ??.. including the workshop etc? .. if so.. Henri would have to start a whole new team with new facilities .. which ain't easy
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Old 26 Nov 2009, 13:31 (Ref:2589702)   #36
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Well , if Sora cant afford to run it , maybe Henri could buy it back for a song !!!
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Old 26 Nov 2009, 14:14 (Ref:2589713)   #37
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I found more interesting things on http://www.automovilismovirtual.com/ forum(a southern american site dedicated to motorsport in general)

The project of running the 4th 908 with Henri Pescarolo as manager(and Sébastien Loeb among mexican drivers for Le Mans !!!)would be born thanks the Mexico city itself(tourism) and Peugeot Mexico...looks very very serious !!!

And you can see a photoshop of the livery that could wear that 908...very exotic for us Europeans...

I'm all for the project, and I hope Olivier Quesnel chose them
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Old 26 Nov 2009, 14:28 (Ref:2589717)   #38
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Rock on man ..... sounds great to me . Im just a bit disapointed that Fernandez isnt in the squad .

Henri ends up being paid by Pug from the looks of it .
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Old 26 Nov 2009, 14:59 (Ref:2589734)   #39
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Porsche P1 program may be stopped due to Porsche economical situation. So, they may find interesting to be involved in a supply with a competitive P1 team. Who's better than Pescarolo Sport?
Hartmut Kristen declared on the italian Autosprint, Porsche would be interested to have a joint venture with a team, not to compete as Porsche work team.
The same Audi has done with Joest Racing.
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Old 26 Nov 2009, 15:45 (Ref:2589758)   #40
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Not really the same thou, Audi Designed and Engineered (Although the basic chassis is/was built by Dallara it was all designed in Ingolstat) the car then got Joest just to run the team(with help from Audi engineers), Just like in DTM the cars are Designed in Inglostat and ran by Joest and helped along by Audi Engineers. All 3rd party stuff, Out sourcing, minimizing people on the books, easier to pull out if things go south, its done alot these days in buisness. Pescarolo is now looking at Peugeot to run there 908 and stuff, And as has been said Sora might not/cant find a budget to run the Pescarolo Prototypes next year so the whole theory of Porsche going to Pescarolo is nothing more than Pie in the Sky thinking, As I said IF Porsche are going to make a return bet your bottoms dollar it will be designed in house at Wiessach, Without the help of Pescarolo sport. Running the car Im sure Porsche would come to some agreement with people they have used more recently to push there factory efforts (Penske or Joest, especially IF Audi decide to pull out and focus on Indy/Mclaren as some rumours have circulated, Infact I Bet IF that were to happen Joest would be Running the Porsche outfit with how close its got to VAG recently).
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Old 26 Nov 2009, 17:12 (Ref:2589798)   #41
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Not really the same thou, Audi Designed and Engineered (Although the basic chassis is/was built by Dallara it was all designed in Ingolstat) the car then got Joest just to run the team(with help from Audi engineers), Just like in DTM the cars are Designed in Inglostat and ran by Joest and helped along by Audi Engineers. All 3rd party stuff, Out sourcing, minimizing people on the books, easier to pull out if things go south, its done alot these days in buisness. Pescarolo is now looking at Peugeot to run there 908 and stuff, And as has been said Sora might not/cant find a budget to run the Pescarolo Prototypes next year so the whole theory of Porsche going to Pescarolo is nothing more than Pie in the Sky thinking, As I said IF Porsche are going to make a return bet your bottoms dollar it will be designed in house at Wiessach, Without the help of Pescarolo sport. Running the car Im sure Porsche would come to some agreement with people they have used more recently to push there factory efforts (Penske or Joest, especially IF Audi decide to pull out and focus on Indy/Mclaren as some rumours have circulated, Infact I Bet IF that were to happen Joest would be Running the Porsche outfit with how close its got to VAG recently).
It is obvious the difference between Pescarolo and Joest. Joest is just a team, while Pescarolo is a manufacturer.
But if we consider Porsche may decide to supply only engine, Pescarolo may be the right choice with its chassis, I've explained why in the prievious post. Porsche may be forced to re-think its involvement in a future P1 program. However they may try to find a partner for a less expensive program. Pescarolo may be the answer.
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Old 26 Nov 2009, 17:25 (Ref:2589802)   #42
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No Pescarolo isnt a manufacture, He was, but he sold his manufacturing to Sora Composites. Who are struggling to fund the team right now. Infact Pesnke doesnt he now own the Saturn brand brought from GM? that technically makes him more of a manufacture than Pescarolo. Yes I understand that Porsche may not come back 100% (chassis and engine there own team etc etc) But with Pescarolo/Sora in a financial struggle now, I dont see how you have made the link between Porsche and Pesca can be made when Henri himself is looking at Peugoet and Sora cant afford to race next year.
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Modification could be made!?
Not really. There have been numerous statements by Audi people about needing a new car for 2011.
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Audi could incorporated ideas from the R15 into their post 2010 car, but we don't even know what Audi intends to do with the R15(Audi has stated a desire to return to the ALMS next year, or a mixture of ALMS/LMS races, but that's all dependant on the ACO's yet to be published 2010 rules-which is why IMSA has gone their own way with their rules, which are fully yet to be published as well-thanks again, ACO!). And with Audi having reportedly no significant presence at Essen this weekend, we can only speculate what'll happen with them for next year, let alone 2011.

As for Pescarolo, his team has no budget to speak of-even the Playstation/Gran Turismo sponsorship is barely adequate to fund the team(Henri's sponorship comes from Sony France, which doesn't really pony up the cash). Unless he comes into some major coin, I place Pescarolo in the same category as Audi-TBA.
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