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Old 3 Jun 2011, 15:59 (Ref:2890606)   #31
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i focus on the word "constructors", the note talks about a constructor champ title and not a team one.... maybe will be allowed in this competition only work teams, so no more distinction between lmp1 and lmp2 but only audi,peugeot,astonmartin,other constructur will be allowed to run with GT cars that will complete the roster.
Other "little" teams like pescarolo, oak, quiefel, dyson etc.... will run in LMS/ALMS. So if today ILMC champ shares some races with LMS/ALMS calendar, next year there will be a split.
The strangest thing is that none before today talked about this... not even "constructors"
I'd assume that "constructors" such as Lola, Pescarolo and Oreca would be allowed in the constructors championship, but who knows. Who knows about LMP2. The lack of a teams championship is odd as there is one in the ILMC. Of course, we are now getting a drivers championship. I'm not sure how I feel about that.

The LMS may run stand alone events next year, but that would not work for the ALMS. Surely at least one of Sebring or Petit would have to be part of the WEC, right?

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Seemingly so with some new twists such as the drivers championship and maybe no team's championship. Will LMP2 still have a championship? We'll see. Also, does the WEC = FIA GT Endurance World Cup for GTEs? How are GTE-Ams (if they still exist) handled in regard to the FIA GT Endurance World Cup given that it is purely a constructors' title?

As for the Ratel series (the easy way to call it), are GTEs "technically" allowed if only 2009 GT2 cars are allowed? I'm not too concerned about that, but I guess it adds to the confusion.
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Old 3 Jun 2011, 16:03 (Ref:2890607)   #32
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Yeah, and I think LMP1 and LMP2 teams, manufacturers, drivers championships will be all separate. Audi for instance would be awarded LMP1 World Endurance Constructors Champions, Bernhard/Dumas LMP1 World Endurance Drivers Champions, Audi Sport North America World Endurance Teams Champions, or whatever.

The same situation will occur in GTE but replace Champions with Cup.

This is all because the FIA favors their SRO/In-House GT Championship as a World Championship over the ACO's GTE class. It seems to be a stupid nomenclature thing.

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Dagys is Tweeting that this is a game changer, some the biggest news in sports car racing since he has covered the sport. I'm guessing that means it's more than just the ILMC with a fresh coat of paint, but we'll see what the details are.

What I am wondering is if the FIA GT Endurance World Cup is simply the GTE version of the WEC or if it also includes "non-WEC" events such as LMS races.

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Old 3 Jun 2011, 16:09 (Ref:2890612)   #34
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Here is Dagy's report: http://auto-racing.speedtv.com/article/le-mans-fia-aco-set-to-launch-world-endurance-championship/
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Old 3 Jun 2011, 16:12 (Ref:2890614)   #35
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ferrari, porsche, aston martin and corvette currently use 2011 specs of their cars, or brand new cars if we talk about ferrari... why a team should pick up back a 2009 gt2?
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Bigger engines allowed in 09 wasnt it? Thats my only thought on it, a 2009 spec Corvette might be faster than todays....
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One of the multitudes of privateers with rent-a-drivers to fill out the GT WC grid.

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Good news!
But also bad.
Now the FIA has influence over Le Mans .

But let's hope this is something which will grow strong, and attract more major manufactures! (Toyota!)
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Dagys is Tweeting that this is a game changer, some the biggest news in sports car racing since he has covered the sport. I'm guessing that means it's more than just the ILMC with a fresh coat of paint, but we'll see what the details are.
Certainly the bar has to raise on many levels.
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Good news!
But also bad.
Now the FIA has influence over Le Mans .

But let's hope this is something which will grow strong, and attract more major manufactures! (Toyota!)
I guess the FIA has always had their influence on Le Mans even during the intervening years (the chicanes still exist and there are threats for more, the big honkin' fins, etc.), but yeah, I'm of the opinion that the less FIA, the better! On the other hand, I suppose world championship status does offer some prestige, but it has hardly worked miracles for Ratel and the WTCC. In the end, we just get new (and more confusing) names yet again. I don't even know how casual fans keep up with this when we die-hards have so many problems understanding what is going on!
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"At least 6 events"? So possibly more...

Hope that both PLM and Sebring are BOTH included, but I am sure that at least one MAY be in jeopardy.
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Could ACO even do this alone? Resources etc.?

I guess Todt likes sportscars.
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While these are indeed good news, I'm also a bit confused. So let me get this straight:

- The current ILMC is transformed into a full World Championship, sanctioned by the FIA.
- There will be a championship for overall winners (That means LMP1) and one GT World Cup for GT1/GTE/2/GT3 within the new WEC.
- But the Ratel series will stay alive, and they will try to bring GT1s, GTEs and GT3s under one hat. But more importantly, Ratel suddenly seems to have become a lapdog of the ACO and FIA (Especially the former). We'll see how long he can take it.
- What will happen to the GT3 European Championship and the Blancpain Endurance Series? These series seem to be suddenly obsolete.
- The new WEC will have six races. Aside from Sebring and Le Mans, I think they'll stay in Spa, Silverstone and China (As manufacturers will insist that they will race there). Petit Le Mans will probably be dropped, as it didn't seem to be popular with team from abroad for a couple of years (And I talk about teams like Felbermayr, who skipped Road Atlanta to travel outright to Zhuhai last year)

I have two concerns:
1. For god's sake, hopefully the Big 'E will stay out of the WEC's business this time. F1 will always stay the #1 in motorsport, so there is nothing to worry about.
2. But an even greater concern is that the ACO and SRO might go into another war. Hopefully Ratel will stay happy that he'll have many manufacturers joining the series (In theory), and not try to interfere into the ACO's business.
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Could ACO even do this alone? Resources etc.?

I guess Todt likes sportscars.
I'm not really sure what the FIA is bringing to the table aside from lending the ACO "World Championship" status, but we'll see what the details are over the next few days and weeks.

As for the schedule, I'd imagine the 2012 speculation still holds. Right now the ILMC races on 3 continents, is this fine for WC status? Will there need to be a 4th continent?
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While these are indeed good news, I'm also a bit confused. So let me get this straight:


- There will be a championship for overall winners (That means LMP1) and one GT World Cup for GT1/GTE/2/GT3 within the new WEC.
The WEC will not include GT1 and GT3. That is strictly for the renamed Ratel series. (Of course, GT1s were allowed this year at Le Mans in the GTE-Am class, so who knows if those provisions may carry over to 2012. I'm guessing not.)

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- The new WEC will have six races. Aside from Sebring and Le Mans, I think they'll stay in Spa, Silverstone and China (As manufacturers will insist that they will race there). Petit Le Mans will probably be dropped, as it didn't seem to be popular with team from abroad for a couple of years (And I talk about teams like Felbermayr, who skipped Road Atlanta to travel outright to Zhuhai last year)
A minimum of six - I suppose there could be more.
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