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View Poll Results: What do you think?
Yes, we need a second GT class for higher/lower performance cars and engines 19 30.65%
No, LMGTE just needs some serious fixing; change engine regulations, loose things up, reduce BoP etc 30 48.39%
No, LMGTE is fine as it is and there are no underlying problems (or fery few of them) 7 11.29%
I don't really care as long as the racing is good 6 9.68%
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Old 21 Apr 2014, 13:40 (Ref:3396215)   #46
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Yes but has the rule actually changed, or is it just the case that there are no 2014-spec cars, thus everything is one year old?
That. GTE was frozen at the end of 2013, which is why Porsche had to race the evolution 991 in Bahrain or stick with the old one.

I'd just get rid of GTE AM. Have a separate podium like we had for P1 privateers for teams fulfilling certain criteria (Bronze or Silver drivers in the squad or something like that), but don't make it a distinct class.
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That. GTE was frozen at the end of 2013, which is why Porsche had to race the evolution 991 in Bahrain or stick with the old one.
Graham Goodwin and Sam Collins might've confused me with their wordings if that's the case

But do you mean GTE-AM was frozen or GTE in general? If PRO as well, how was GM able to introduce C7.R since it only debuted this year?
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There is not any regoulamentar frozen specs for GTE cars, there is only for DTM (not total frozen specs, cars can have little updates like new mirrors) and already produced 2013 GT3 models. Simply cars like 458 and vantage are very old and basicly reachead already the edge of development, michelotto and prodrive have little to develope further. About porsche 991 is a different story, they introduced the "2014 specs" during the 2013 bahrein race, making available this package also for GT-AM teams for 2014 season! this basicly means that work teams (manthey in wec and porsche NA/core in TUSC) and private gt-am teams (proton and falken in TUSC) use exactly the same package.
If P&M were able to homologate and make debut the C7R in 2013 (also only for one race as porsche did), this year team larbre could use it in wec gt-am or elms gt class.
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But why then DSC (and RLM when on air) mentioned that GTE-AM teams can now use most up-to-date machinery, as clearly C7.R is not eglible... again, maybe just bad wording, I don't know

C7.R doesn't appear on the BoP tables as of yet, btw. Usually in recent years they performance balance the cars in advance even if they haven't run a mile in ACO trim
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From the GTE rules (http://www.24h-lemans.com/wpphpFichi...s-lm-gte.pdf):

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Except for safety or reliability reasons, only one evolution per period of 2 years is permitted before the first event of the season in which the homologated model is entered. This evolution will have the current year of the manufacture and will not be allowed on the cars from previous periods if a competitor wants to run in LMGTE-AM.

The period of restriction will begin for 2013 models for LMGTE-PRO cars, it will be the same for every car.
So, you can only do one update within two years. The rule came in starting from 2013, and obviously all cars were updated in 2013. That sounds to me like an effective development freeze for 2014 (although probably badly translated from French ). New cars for 2014 like the C7R aren't affected because they aren't homologated yet. The Porsches were upgraded because of this sentence:
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