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Old 22 Nov 2019, 09:09 (Ref:3942100)   #1
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2020 Licence renewals

It's a closed shop so probably not worth discussing? but £220 . . . . and £155 for a national, I'm not sure where the added value is, most of us still need a medical!
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Old 22 Nov 2019, 09:11 (Ref:3942101)   #2
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Can't remember what last year's price was.
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Old 22 Nov 2019, 09:40 (Ref:3942103)   #3
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Old 22 Nov 2019, 09:47 (Ref:3942104)   #4
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Thanks so not a massive hike for international then. I guess there are more Nat A sold than others hence a bigger increase.
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Old 22 Nov 2019, 10:18 (Ref:3942105)   #5
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more than 50% increase for a Nat A. For what? To pay for the HQ move to Bicester? For a bunch of teenagers to get a free 'leg up' onto 'the ladder'?
How do our licence costs compare to other countries in Europe?
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Old 22 Nov 2019, 11:05 (Ref:3942113)   #6
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Good question MGDavid . . .

I don't remember last/this years licence cost, just lumped it all together with stressed ecg and medical etc . . . so expensive, about £600 . . . especially expensive given I've barely used it, although will hopefully air it more next year.

have asked a Belgian friend re licence cost.

it wasnt long ago £140 was Int and nat A was £80. I'm not keeping up with 'inflation'
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Old 22 Nov 2019, 11:45 (Ref:3942119)   #7
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more than 50% increase for a Nat A. For what? To pay for the HQ move to Bicester? For a bunch of teenagers to get a free 'leg up' onto 'the ladder'?
You might want to read this - https://www.motorsportuk.org/2020-li...estructure-qa/
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Old 22 Nov 2019, 11:54 (Ref:3942120)   #8
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Belgium . . . .450 euro's

but alcohol and cigarettes are dirt cheap there.
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Old 22 Nov 2019, 12:08 (Ref:3942123)   #9
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National B and National A licenses have increased by >50%
International licenses have increased by 3%

The international license holders are probably the ones who could afford more of a hike than the National B holders.
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Old 22 Nov 2019, 12:28 (Ref:3942126)   #10
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Belgium . . . .450 euro's

but alcohol and cigarettes are dirt cheap there.
Not sure of the relevance, unless you’re suggesting Belgium racers buy a lot of fags and booze!
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Old 22 Nov 2019, 12:42 (Ref:3942128)   #11
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more than 50% increase for a Nat A. For what? To pay for the HQ move to Bicester? For a bunch of teenagers to get a free 'leg up' onto 'the ladder'?
How do our licence costs compare to other countries in Europe?

Move to Bicester is a red herring - long term that will be cost neutral or probably beneficial - the real estate at Colnbrook is going to be worth a lot more than that at Bicester......


The reduction in the number of medicals required will more or less offset the £50 increase in licence fee for my Race A.
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Old 22 Nov 2019, 12:47 (Ref:3942131)   #12
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I haven't seen the new rules yet but what has changed with the medicals?
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self-certify fitness to race except for an eyetest until 60 when a doctors medical is needed, then again at 65, 70, 72, 74 and annually from 75 onwards.
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self-certify fitness to race except for an eyetest until 60 when a doctors medical is needed, then again at 65, 70, 72, 74 and annually from 75 onwards.
I’d add that International licence holders Med / ECG / Eye test requirements seem to be same as before.

Race, truck & long circuit kart racers have to have an eye test at first application for a licence, then after age of 45 a vision test is required every 3 years. (10.1.11 b)
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Fair enough then. Thanks.
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Old 22 Nov 2019, 13:26 (Ref:3942137)   #16
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And free eye tests with Specsavers are one of the benefits that license holders get.
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I’d add that International licence holders Med / ECG / Eye test requirements seem to be same as before.
On reflection, I suspect that is more a function of the FIA's rules than MSUK.
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On reflection, I suspect that is more a function of the FIA's rules than MSUK.
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MSUK requirements for Stress ECG etc haven't changed, but the FIA ones change a couple of years back to just be a consultation with a cardiologist who may require further tests which could entail a stress ecg
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Medicals now valid for only 3 months. Used to be 12 which meant you could get two licenses per medical.
Now we more mature gentlemen will need one every year
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Crikey Gil, are you 70???.
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The length of validity of the medicals has not changed, nor has the fact that you have to apply for you licence within three months of the date of the medical for it to be used in your licence application
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The length of validity of the medicals has not changed, nor has the fact that you have to apply for you licence within three months of the date of the medical for it to be used in your licence application
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Belgium . . . .450 euro's but alcohol and cigarettes are dirt cheap there.
If you have to buy an Itn C here, its a good thing because you won't have any change left for fags or alcohol. Very incentive.
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And free eye tests with Specsavers are one of the benefits that license holders get.
smoke & mirrors; *anyone* can get a free eyetest at Specsavers

https://www.specsavers.co.uk/free-eye-test
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