Ford Aero Changes

FPRXR-6 · 7 Feb 2006, 15:17 (Ref:1517319)

In the latest AA it lists some changes for the BF cosmetic changes.....

*No bonnet bulge

*Re-designed rear bumper (BF GT)
*New side skirts

Ford wanted a re-designed rear wing but it was canned by TEGA.
Tests are being carried out by SBR at QR.

SRabbit · 7 Feb 2006, 20:05 (Ref:1517466)

no bulge?? is this confirmed??

Ford's marketing people won't be impressed, nor will any GT or XR8 owners - i wonder if they'll look for a new motor for the road cars to fit in a standard bonnet now?

RotorFan · 7 Feb 2006, 21:47 (Ref:1517549)

While I think that bulge is cliche in the extreme, why get rid of it? Aero advantage? Must be a small one.

SRabbit · 7 Feb 2006, 23:15 (Ref:1517627)

in the road car its required as the engine doesnt fit without it but its purely aesthetic in the Supercars - but I mean they go racing to advertise and market dont they?
So we get to watch SS's vs XR6's this year now?

that's poo.

Armageddon · 8 Feb 2006, 00:19 (Ref:1517670)

I agree, they are V8Supercars not 6 cylinders! The old GTHO's ran with everything the same, so should these, I think they will look funny with out the buldge!

WebberForWDC · 8 Feb 2006, 01:22 (Ref:1517690)

Do you really need aero tests for a rear bumper and sideskirts, hehe. The cutting of the bonnet bulge seems like a scheming Holden Motor Sport idea....

Hello Tega TW & 6 teams with various conflicts of interest HRT, HSV, HSV sponsorship etc. 2 of those cars are logically banned from racing the other 4 get to share test days, very very fair.

Razor · 8 Feb 2006, 01:28 (Ref:1517693)

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Originally Posted by SRabbit

in the road car its required as the engine doesnt fit without it but its purely aesthetic in the Supercars - but I mean they go racing to advertise and market dont they?
So we get to watch SS's vs XR6's this year now?

that's poo.

The Holden teams use SV8 bodies. Because of the SS side flutes

SRabbit · 8 Feb 2006, 01:45 (Ref:1517702)

still a V8 but yes?

and Holden lodged a protest over the BA before Dick Johnson had even finished the parade lap at Bathurst in the prototype saying the bulge could offer an advantage to the way the motors are made eg extra room for air intake but from what i understand the bonnets were blanked off underneath so this wasnt possible - so they wasted their time if they persued it. Performane wise doesnt mean anything i guess but I dont understand how Ford or FPV could be happy to let it happen - look at the front end of the new GT - its pure Supercar - FPR even badge their cars as GT's.

I dont get it.

champcarman · 8 Feb 2006, 01:53 (Ref:1517707)

Some of the Teams feel the bonnet hump disturbs the airflow over the car and thus the rear downforce. I believe it is some Ford teams that want to get rid of the hump.At least it will remove another variable between the Hoden and the Ford and the Ford will look sleeker and less like a barge.

johnh875 · 8 Feb 2006, 02:21 (Ref:1517717)

I agree it is a dumb decision to get rid of the bulge. There is no mention of the front spoiler - is this unchanged or revised with BF cosmetics?

RotorFan · 8 Feb 2006, 02:23 (Ref:1517720)

There seems to be an assumption that Holden was involved in its removal? Why would that be?

SRabbit · 8 Feb 2006, 02:35 (Ref:1517724)

no assumption from me - WebberforWDC mentioned the 'H' word and I remember they werent happy at first, but Ive just come back from getting lunch and popped into the newsagency to read AA ( coz the interesting bits take about 2 minutes to skim through ) and it says that the teams have asked for the XR6 bonnet.
this could start some interesting internal politics!!
toyota and mitsubishi could be keeping an eye on this as well as i thought the Supercar was supposed to represent the roadgoing V8 - its only a small loophole but its about to exist regardless!!

lcfp2297 · 8 Feb 2006, 02:49 (Ref:1517731)

[QUOTE=SRabbit]in the road car its required as the engine doesnt fit without it but its purely aesthetic in the Supercars - but I mean they go racing to advertise and market dont they?
So we get to watch SS's vs XR6's this year now?
QUOTE]

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Originally Posted by Greg Barton

The Holden teams use SV8 bodies. Because of the SS side flutes

They use Commodore body shells...never seen SS nor SV8 badges on any of the race cars...they are more likely to be Executives...

Pirtek_Falcon-1 · 8 Feb 2006, 02:52 (Ref:1517732)

This series is becoming increasingly less attractive to watch.

Matt H · 8 Feb 2006, 02:53 (Ref:1517734)

i did see ss badges on a rod nash commdore when tony longhurst was driving it, back in the vt days i think

lcfp2297 · 8 Feb 2006, 03:00 (Ref:1517735)

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Originally Posted by Matt H

i did see ss badges on a rod nash commdore when tony longhurst was driving it, back in the vt days i think

I've seen SS badges on a Mitsubishi

Matt H · 8 Feb 2006, 03:06 (Ref:1517736)

rice rice baby :P hehehe

SRabbit · 8 Feb 2006, 03:48 (Ref:1517751)

regardless of what 'shell' they use ( and they are all the same from executive to SS ) the front end of an SS is supposed to resemble a V8Supercar front airdam - in particular HRT as they have theirs blacked out.

now if they think putting an XR6 bonnet on the cars won't confuse people that are less learned that the good folk who frequent the forums they have another thing coming.

i had one bloke who owned a very nice older example XR6 tell me, straight faced, I waited for the laugh or even a grin but it never came, that Ford never had a chance against the Holdens since Holden went to the 5.7Litre and at the time Ford still had the 5.0 Litre - and yes, he was talking about V8Supercars.

so i can see the discussions on the hill now
"i know it sounds like a V8 but why are we running 6 Cylinders now? maybe its the Turbo. It'd have to be wouldnt it?? "

Driver · 8 Feb 2006, 04:30 (Ref:1517768)

But the non XR V8 Falcons and the Fairlanes have a flat bonnet. They use the Barra 230 (It think that is what it is called)

Maybe they are all going to start driving Fairmont Ghia's with all the electrics to try to pick up sales on the luxury models

Vanilla Dice · 8 Feb 2006, 04:36 (Ref:1517773)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Matt H

rice rice baby :P hehehe

Stop, collaborate & listen....
Dice Dice Baby!

Damned japcraaaaap.... Eurotrash is the only way to fly....

Dice Dice Baby!

The Ford Aero is stuffed.. its has lost them a couple of Bathursts now.. when will they ever learn...

Rombles1 · 8 Feb 2006, 04:49 (Ref:1517781)

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Originally Posted by Vanilla Dice

....The Ford Aero is stuffed.. its has lost them a couple of Bathursts now.. when will they ever learn...

It has also won them 3 consecutive championships.....

SRabbit · 8 Feb 2006, 05:11 (Ref:1517789)

driving into walls was the main problem last year.....

Henry · 8 Feb 2006, 05:44 (Ref:1517796)

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Originally Posted by SRabbit

driving into walls was the main problem last year.....

aerodynamic instability to blame perhaps?

Vanilla Dice · 8 Feb 2006, 06:52 (Ref:1517806)

Lack of skill & patience perhaps?

Where was Ambrose's ball tearer lap from the old days, when he would pull one out of his rectum on qualifying day to go quicker than he managed all thru the week.

Hasnt happened since the introduction of the BA...

The only aero the Ford boys know about is the chocolate bar..

bathurst77 · 8 Feb 2006, 08:55 (Ref:1517868)

Seems like a marketing mistake to lose the bulge, afterall the performance V8 fords/FPRs (XR8-GT) have bulges.

Means the race cars look even less like the road cars they are s'posed to represent, also means the fords n holdens look even more alike.

Maybe the sponsers wanted a nice flat "canvas" for their logos.

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