Future Grands Prix?

[Beetle]

Originally Posted by wolfhound

Mexico is apparently on the provisonal 2014 calender according to Autosport with a race in Mexico city after Austin.

http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/109493

That was a bit of a surprise as I have not heard it mentioned for some time.

I think Bernie's just happy that he can turn it back into a nice calendar of exactly 20 GPs again.

I've always liked Autodromo Hermanos Rodriguez. Everyone always loves to talk about how dangerous Mexico is but really Interlagos is no safer. I'm glad to see Bernie thinking outside the Tilke these last few months... adding Austria and now this.

I'm going to take a crack at what the schedule may look like next year, given the tidbits of information we've collected over the silly season:

1. Melbourne
2. Sepang
3. Shanghai
4. Bahrain
5. Valencia
6. Monaco
7. Montreal
8. Silverstone
9. Red Bull Ring
10. Hockenheim
11. Hungary
12. Spa
13. Monza
14. Sochi
15. Singapore
16. Suzuka
17. Yas Marina
18. COTA
19. Mexico City
20. Interlagos

That sounds like a fantastic year. Notice I left out Yeongam, Buddh, and New Jersey.

[wolfhound]

Originally Posted by Beetle

I think Bernie's just happy that he can turn it back into a nice calendar of exactly 20 GPs again.

I've always liked Autodromo Hermanos Rodriguez. Everyone always loves to talk about how dangerous Mexico is but really Interlagos is no safer. I'm glad to see Bernie thinking outside the Tilke these last few months... adding Austria and now this.

I'm going to take a crack at what the schedule may look like next year, given the tidbits of information we've collected over the silly season:

1. Melbourne
2. Sepang
3. Shanghai
4. Bahrain
5. Valencia
6. Monaco
7. Montreal
8. Silverstone
9. Hockenheim
10. Red Bull Ring
11. Hungary
12. Spa
13. Monza
14. Sochi
15. Singapore
16. Suzuka
17. Yas Marina
18. COTA
19. Mexico City
20. Interlagos

That sounds like a fantastic year. Notice I left out Yeongam, Buddh, and New Jersey.

Looks like a good guess but I would suspect Germany after Austria given that Austria has an early July date.

[Beetle]

Originally Posted by wolfhound

Looks like a good guess but I would suspect Germany after Austria given that Austria has an early July date.

Oh, I forgot.



Edited.

[wolfhound]

Looking at that list 4 of the last five circuits (Suzuka, COTA, Mexico & Interlagos) are pretty good ones as well so it has potential for good finish to the year.

[bjohnsonsmith]

Originally Posted by Beetle

I think Bernie's just happy that he can turn it back into a nice calendar of exactly 20 GPs again.

I've always liked Autodromo Hermanos Rodriguez. Everyone always loves to talk about how dangerous Mexico is but really Interlagos is no safer. I'm glad to see Bernie thinking outside the Tilke these last few months... adding Austria and now this.

I'm going to take a crack at what the schedule may look like next year, given the tidbits of information we've collected over the silly season:

1. Melbourne
2. Sepang
3. Shanghai
4. Bahrain
5. Valencia
6. Monaco
7. Montreal
8. Silverstone
9. Red Bull Ring
10. Hockenheim
11. Hungary
12. Spa
13. Monza
14. Sochi
15. Singapore
16. Suzuka
17. Yas Marina
18. COTA
19. Mexico City
20. Interlagos

That sounds like a fantastic year. Notice I left out Yeongam, Buddh, and New Jersey.

Buddh isn't on next year's calendar but back in 2015 and New Jersey is not happening at all, according to Bernie.

[Beetle]

Originally Posted by bjohnsonsmith

Buddh isn't on next year's calendar but back in 2015 and New Jersey is not happening at all, according to Bernie.

That's why I left those two out.

[bjohnsonsmith]

Originally Posted by Beetle

That's why I left those two out.

Duh, I obviously can't read.

[Formulahistory]

The Spanish Grand Prix will be at Barcelona, not Valencia-

Had we ever so much changes from one year to the next as it is expect for 2014?

[p-matt]

It is pleasing that we're getting two historic race tracks back for next year. I only wish Bernie cared about that rather than the money he's getting from them both.

I think we're correctly assuming New Jersey won't happen and that Korea and India will be dropped for next year, but what happens when India supposedly comes back in 2015? We'll have 21 races then. I don't really see that there are any other races that are on seriously shaky ground in the next few years.

[Bononi]

So Mexico is confirmed ?!?

[Beetle]

Originally Posted by Formulahistory

The Spanish Grand Prix will be at Barcelona, not Valencia-

Had we ever so much changes from one year to the next as it is expect for 2014?

No, no... they are now officially alternating. It's an old article, I know, but it's still in place as far as I know: 2013 Barcelona, 2014 Valencia, 2015 Barcelona, 2016 Valencia, etc...

And there are lots of changes going on, yes.

Originally Posted by p-matt

It is pleasing that we're getting two historic race tracks back for next year. I only wish Bernie cared about that rather than the money he's getting from them both.

I think we're correctly assuming New Jersey won't happen and that Korea and India will be dropped for next year, but what happens when India supposedly comes back in 2015? We'll have 21 races then. I don't really see that there are any other races that are on seriously shaky ground in the next few years.

Add Yeongam back, finally get NJ on the calendar, attempt the Bangkok Street Circuit, and go for a French GP at Paul Ricard. Again, it's all about being a multiple of 2 or 5... 19 or 21 won't sit well with the Bernie.

In all seriousness, I think it'll probably be 22... the French GP seems to be the next "classic" in line for a makeover.

Originally Posted by Bononi

So Mexico is confirmed ?!?

Not 100%... this was an excerpt from the article in Autoweek.

Formula One boss Bernie Ecclestone has revealed that a decision is due “within a couple of weeks” about whether the Mexican Grand Prix will take place next year.

But we can assume that it'll be part of the 2014 calendar. Bernie wants it, Mexico seems to want it, there are now two Mexican drivers in F1, and it's a nice bridge between COTA and Sao Paulo - Bernie's a big fan of spreading out geographically.

[bjohnsonsmith]

Bernie says the NJ GP will go ahead, in 2015. I'm taking that with a big pinch of salt.

http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/111727

[bjohnsonsmith]

This is an interesting article about the NJ GP.

http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/111731

[wolfhound]

Originally Posted by bjohnsonsmith

This is an interesting article about the NJ GP.

http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/111731

I suspect Leo Hindrey has to find about $20 million a year to satisfy Bernie and CVC.

[BSchneiderFan]

Shame about New Jersey. I was looking forward to that.

[TheMightyM]

Long Beach may be back in play. Robin Miller writing for Racer has an article out on “Long Beach City Council ponders bid for F1 return.” The key quote:

"What will transpire Tuesday night is that the city council will vote on whether they wish to issue an RFP (Request For Proposal) to determine whether Long Beach will continue with the IndyCar weekend and the Grand Prix Association of Long Beach or consider another party that wants to conduct a Formula 1 race," said Jim Michaelian, the GPALB president and CEO who is currently preparing for the 40th annual Toyota Grand Prix of Long Beach on April 11-13. "Our contract runs through 2015 and we are asking the city to extend this very productive relationship for another five years if the RFP is denied."

[Beetle]

Originally Posted by TheMightyM

Long Beach may be back in play. Robin Miller writing for Racer has an article out on “Long Beach City Council ponders bid for F1 return.” The key quote:

That track will need some serious renovation + expansion if they even have a chance of hosting an F1 race. Plus, that part of L.A. isn't very aesthetically-pleasing...

[Formulahistory]

I would like to see F1 AND IndyCar on the same weekend in Long Beach.

[TheNo1F1Fan]

Originally Posted by Formulahistory

I would like to see F1 AND IndyCar on the same weekend in Long Beach.

Me too. It would be the collest thing ever, because it could be an "American Open Wheel Weekend"!

[bjohnsonsmith]

Originally Posted by Formulahistory

I would like to see F1 AND IndyCar on the same weekend in Long Beach.

I don't think it will happen for two reason's; Bernie's exorbitant sanctioning fee and the Long Beach track itself.

[Tucky]

Also considering neither indycar or F1 will want to play second fiddle to the other.

Correct me if I'm wrong but didn't the long beach track literally come apart last year during the indycar race? I remember the tarmac filling coming up and causing cars to crash but can't remember which race exactly.

[bjohnsonsmith]

Originally Posted by Tucky

Also considering neither indycar or F1 will want to play second fiddle to the other.

Correct me if I'm wrong but didn't the long beach track literally come apart last year during the indycar race? I remember the tarmac filling coming up and causing cars to crash but can't remember which race exactly.

I think you'll find that was Detroit 2012, where after 38 laps or so the track surface started to disintegrate in various places round the circuit and the race was red flagged, then restarted two hours later, after the damaged sections of track were filled with concrete.

[Tucky]

that's the one! thanks for the clarification, I can only watch indycar on youtube so it's never never in order

[bjohnsonsmith]

Originally Posted by Tucky

that's the one! thanks for the clarification, I can only watch indycar on youtube so it's never never in order

If they were to run both series at Long Beach, broadcasting is one thing that will need to be sorted out, particularly for viewers outside the US. NBCSN are one of the IndyCar series broadcasters and they carry Long Beach. As a motorsports broadcaster they leave a lot to be desired, why the IRL entered into this deal with them does beggar belief. Ok, the IRL get a fee from NBCSN but the deal is becoming unsutainable, with viewing figures dwindling and sponsors leaving the series.

[ScotsBrutesFan]

Originally Posted by bjohnsonsmith

If they were to run both series at Long Beach, broadcasting is one thing that will need to be sorted out, particularly for viewers outside the US. NBCSN are one of the IndyCar series broadcasters and they carry Long Beach. As a motorsports broadcaster they leave a lot to be desired, why the IRL entered into this deal with them does beggar belief. Ok, the IRL get a fee from NBCSN but the deal is becoming unsutainable, with viewing figures dwindling and sponsors leaving the series.

It's never going to happen.

At an F1 event FOM have total control over track coverage and world feed from the first Green Light on a Friday morning of which ever categories first practice through to the end of the interviews after Grand Prix Podium., and also issue the passes to the National broadcasters for their paddock camera crews.

They would never relinquish control to another series, you only have to look at Australia where the V8s didn't get coverage unless the local broadcaster bought it from FOM. Even at that it would be coverage directed by the FOM tv director not regular one from that series.