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Old 23 Oct 2005, 18:47 (Ref:1441443)   #101
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You´re right. #10 is one of the NdB cars. But we have the G-Force LeMans Chassis.
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Old 23 Oct 2005, 19:12 (Ref:1441463)   #102
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#10 is the B-K Mazda C65 that runs in the ALMS. It is not the noel del bello courage.

one of the NdB cars is #8. The other one is unknown. But #10 is definatly the B-K Mazda C65
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Old 23 Oct 2005, 19:21 (Ref:1441466)   #103
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Hmmm..... is it the #15?
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Old 23 Oct 2005, 19:22 (Ref:1441469)   #104
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Are you sure? Do you have a shot of the number plate? I´ve no record for chassis #10 for 2005. Maybe it the chassis than run g-Force after the LeMans crash.
I dont have a picture of the number plate, but i am judging by the bodywork on the car. I could be wrong however.

Ok, you may be right about the Gforce LM chassis. The same chassis that Gforce used for Le Mans and De Bello used (as a second car for LMES Spa) is probably the same chassis. Im guessing its either chassis #13 or #15.

#14 is the Kruse Courage (Ian Mitchell one).
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Old 23 Oct 2005, 19:24 (Ref:1441470)   #105
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Hmmm..... is it the #15?

I bet it is the #15 then. they probably didnt make a #13 one (although the team uses the #13 on the car, so they may not think its unlucky)

So chassis #15 would be:

The Gforce Le Mans Tub
nr 21 Noel Del Bello Courage run at Spa LMES
The chassis that Balfe tested.

correct?
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Old 23 Oct 2005, 20:04 (Ref:1441512)   #106
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So chassis #15 would be:

The Gforce Le Mans Tub
nr 21 Noel Del Bello Courage run at Spa LMES
The chassis that Balfe tested.

correct?
But NdB run also two Courage at the Nurburgring 1000 km. So it´s obvious that NdB owns two cars and didn´t gave only the tub back to Courage. The G-Force car was complete new built at Le Mans, but the tub was later given back to Courage.

So the chassis Balfe tested is the chassis G-Force used in Le Mans und Courage built a new car with the tub or the converted Le Mans # 13.

correct ?
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Old 24 Oct 2005, 01:44 (Ref:1441698)   #107
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But NdB run also two Courage at the Nurburgring 1000 km. So it´s obvious that NdB owns two cars and didn´t gave only the tub back to Courage. The G-Force car was complete new built at Le Mans, but the tub was later given back to Courage.

So the chassis Balfe tested is the chassis G-Force used in Le Mans und Courage built a new car with the tub or the converted Le Mans # 13.

correct ?
ok yes, so theres 2 mystery chassis's. the Gforce Le Mans One that Balfe could have been in AND the 2nd NdB chassis.

man, all of this stuff is getting confusing! lol
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Old 24 Oct 2005, 05:16 (Ref:1441763)   #108
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Bafle Motorsport shakedown on a LMP2 Courage : read all about it on Infoscourse !
Sorry to auto-quote - I should have ad that Infoscourse was thanking Philip Derbyshire and... Malcolm Cracknell for the news... erm... no need to introduce him, I think
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Old 24 Oct 2005, 07:04 (Ref:1441804)   #109
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Next to the possible 2006 entries, when will the 2006 calendar be released?
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Old 24 Oct 2005, 21:08 (Ref:1442555)   #110
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As for the Balfe Motorsport testing, they used the #12 Le Mans chassis converted in a C65 (with the Judd engine)
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Old 25 Oct 2005, 01:54 (Ref:1442699)   #111
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car number #12 or chassis #12? because chassis #12 is the Barazi owned red C65. I assume you mean the C60 Hybrid Nr 12 that ran at le mans, correct? if thats the case, then its chassis #2 (the one that Balfe tested).
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Old 25 Oct 2005, 06:57 (Ref:1442784)   #112
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You're perfectly right. I meaned #12 car tha ran at Le Mans driven by Frei/Vann/Schwager, converted in a C65.
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Old 25 Oct 2005, 09:40 (Ref:1442873)   #113
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That’s pretty interesting. Always thought that the blue LMES # 13 ( LM # 12 ) is the chassis # 2 and the black LM # 13 is chassis # 5. ( like they ran in Le Mans )

So it seems that they swapped the bodywork of both cars after Le Mans to confuse us.

O.k., the black “Balfe” test car is done, but there is still the question about the 2nd Ndb chassis.
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Old 3 Nov 2005, 11:27 (Ref:1451230)   #114
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Just been reading that the mythical Lavaggi (sp) LMP could be ready for 2006!
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Well, that's one rumour which looks like becoming reality.

But the Wiet Huidekoper project is the one that really fascinates me. Still no news, not a peep (officially)!!
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Old 3 Nov 2005, 13:36 (Ref:1451302)   #116
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So the Lavaggi (sp) project has finally got of the ground, this story has been around for at least the 3 years to my knowladge. But it will be good to see another manfactor on the grid come the start of the 2006 season.
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It reminds me of an Audi/Dallara ..... I sincerly hope that it isnt a *******ised Dallara LMP1 !!!
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Two Works Courage LC70 LMP1s for 2006 according to DSC.

LC75 LMP2 is almost ready.

DSC commented that the RFH team manager was talking with the Japanease at Istanbul, guess it could be about selling the RFH chassis to a JLMS competitor and/or buying the new Dome GTP.

Personally, I doubt whether RFH would convert or buy a hybrid Dome, as it would only be eligable for one further season.
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Two Works Courage LC70 LMP1s for 2006 according to DSC.
The reference to engines is interesting. Not because of engine choice (which has been decided but yet tba) but because it implies either that they already have a customer car on their order books or that the engine planned for the factory cars would not be available to customers (I'm thinking Elan). Either way there's a strong suggestion the new AER unit will find its way into at least one LC70.
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Kruse with a new LMP2 next year.
http://www.gt-eins.de/CMS/index.php?...d=887&Itemid=2
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Not a porsche and he talking about a surprice, think its not a courage.
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A couple of snippets courtesy of DSC.

Seems Lola anticipate having at least two B06/10's racing on each side of the Atlantic from the start of the 2006 season. We know about the 2+ destined for the ALMS, but the LMS cars? One could be the rumoured 'All Female Chamberlain' car. I have heard nothing about a second car........?

Yet another driver has been out testing the Creation DBA, Harold Primat. He and JCW stayed on in Istanbul. The rumoured second car has been mentioned again. And if there is a second car it will most likely be a new chassis, not one of the existing 04S's.

And the factory Zytek also stayed on in Istanbul. The purpose in this case was to continue testing on the 4 litre LMP1 engine which they will use next year.
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A couple of snippets courtesy of DSC.

Seems Lola anticipate having at least two B06/10's racing on each side of the Atlantic from the start of the 2006 season. We know about the 2+ destined for the ALMS, but the LMS cars? One could be the rumoured 'All Female Chamberlain' car. I have heard nothing about a second car........?

Yet another driver has been out testing the Creation DBA, Harold Primat. He and JCW stayed on in Istanbul. The rumoured second car has been mentioned again. And if there is a second car it will most likely be a new chassis, not one of the existing 04S's.

And the factory Zytek also stayed on in Istanbul. The purpose in this case was to continue testing on the 4 litre LMP1 engine which they will use next year.
Pretty sure the "all female" Chamberlain car will be an LMP2, if the project surfaces at all.
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The DSC article didn't really make clear whether the Zytek was running at 900kg, when using the 4l engine.


Would make sense.
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It would make sense, but it really depends on what the test was meant to accomplish. If they just wanted some track miles on the motor I suppose it wouldn't matter what configuration the car was in. However, if they wanted to set comparative times, then running heavier would make sense. The car is certainly capable of running heavier, as it was designed to also be a LMP900 car.
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Pretty sure the "all female" Chamberlain car will be an LMP2, if the project surfaces at all.
I am showing this as LMP1 on Mariantic because of this quote from Amanda in "The Times"

"For Le Mans, Amanda has no plans just to make up the numbers. The plan is to race an LMP1 car, the fastest type on the grid, and nothing less than overall victory is the goal. “Next year there will be no Audis and we will have an LMP1 car and will be going for an outright win in the prototype class,” she said. "

Apart from a bit of wishful thinking about Audi it seems a runner...

The link to the Times story is Here (possibly subscription needed)

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