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View Poll Results: Who gets your vote?
Lewis Hamilton 1 2.38%
Valtteri Bottas 0 0%
Charles Leclerc 29 69.05%
Sebastian Vettel 0 0%
Max Verstappen 0 0%
Alexander Albon 6 14.29%
Carlos Sainz 0 0%
Lando Norris 6 14.29%
Daniel Ricciardo 0 0%
Nico Hülkenberg 0 0%
Daniil Kvyat 0 0%
Pierre Gasly 0 0%
Kevin Magnussen 0 0%
Romain Grosjean 0 0%
Kimi Räikkönen 0 0%
Antonio Giovinazzi 0 0%
Sergio Pérez 0 0%
Lance Stroll 0 0%
George Russell 0 0%
Robert Kubica 0 0%
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Old 2 Sep 2019, 13:25 (Ref:3925398)   #16
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I am not if it was spec 2 or spec 3 Max was on. If Gasly was on spec 4 it makes sense to have it done now. It seems the RBR comes good at the end of the race, problem is their only one was a bit far behind
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Old 2 Sep 2019, 13:51 (Ref:3925403)   #17
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I am not if it was spec 2 or spec 3 Max was on. If Gasly was on spec 4 it makes sense to have it done now. It seems the RBR comes good at the end of the race, problem is their only one was a bit far behind
After the Hungarian GP, the Red Bull and Toro Rosso cars were all using the spec 3 engine.

For Belgium, the spec 4 engine was available for all four cars. The team(s) chose to install this on Albon's and Kvyat's cars, resulting in them both having a grid penalty.

Gasly and Verstappen kept their spec 3 engines for Belgium, and will face penalties if/when they move to the spec 4.

The only drivers on the grid who could theoretically make an engine change without penalty are Vettee and The Cleric, and the expectation is that we will see their upgrade at Monza.
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Old 2 Sep 2019, 14:21 (Ref:3925407)   #18
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Well only one driver in this race really
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The only drivers on the grid who could theoretically make an engine change without penalty are Vettee and The Cleric, and the expectation is that we will see their upgrade at Monza.
And Hulkenberg, Ricciardo and Sainz. They all took a grid penalty but reverted to an old engine. They can use the new (unused) engine in Monza or Singapore without taking a (new) penalty now.
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Norris...prior to retirment, his lead over Perez in P6 was massive.

Would like to know more about his pace. Not sure where the time was found but maybe Mclaren came out of the break huge?
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Old 3 Sep 2019, 00:45 (Ref:3925494)   #22
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I am disappointed. There was alot of hype on Sky regarding Kimi's performance prior to the race. I remember the commentators saying that the Mercedes team was concerned about the straight line speed of Kimi's car. Hearing that got me amped up only to end in disappointment which was totally Verstappen's fault. Kimi could have won the race. Who knows? Anyway, I abstain from voting.

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And Hulkenberg, Ricciardo and Sainz. They all took a grid penalty but reverted to an old engine. They can use the new (unused) engine in Monza or Singapore without taking a (new) penalty now.
Yes - I meant making an engine change that involves new units being used.

The Red pair are the only drivers to have used just 2 ICEs, TCs and MGU-Hs so far.
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Norris for me - but only just. Albon and LeClerc were in the picture too.

Also - more excellent radio from Kimi
Kimi left a huge gap himself



The gap Max went for was a lot larger than the gap Lando succesfully went for
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Hmm, not entirely certain of your logic there, since Max was being squeezed, but when Lando got there, both cars were exiting stage left.
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Old 4 Sep 2019, 17:21 (Ref:3925835)   #26
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I gave it to Albon after that impressive drive
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Yes - I meant making an engine change that involves new units being used.

The Red pair are the only drivers to have used just 2 ICEs, TCs and MGU-Hs so far.
Maybe not the correct place to be asking this question but as you are talking engines...
I was wondering at the weekend if teams are mandated to take replacements engines sequentially? What I mean by this is if (say) Toro Rosso played the part of sacrificial lambs, testing & proving (or not) up-dated Honda lumps (and taking the appropriate grid penalties). Once a significant improvement is found could Red Bull then jump from (say) a spec 4 unit to the latest all singing, all dancing spec 8 specification?
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Maybe not the correct place to be asking this question but as you are talking engines...
I was wondering at the weekend if teams are mandated to take replacements engines sequentially? What I mean by this is if (say) Toro Rosso played the part of sacrificial lambs, testing & proving (or not) up-dated Honda lumps (and taking the appropriate grid penalties). Once a significant improvement is found could Red Bull then jump from (say) a spec 4 unit to the latest all singing, all dancing spec 8 specification?
This answers you question I think.

https://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/v...nalty/4528937/
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Once a significant improvement is found could Red Bull then jump from (say) a spec 4 unit to the latest all singing, all dancing spec 8 specification?
In theory - yes.

Driver A starts the season with a spec of engine - lets say spec 1.
During the next 7 races, the engine manufacturer makes 7 upgrades to the engine to develop a spec 8, but Driver A does not use any of these.
At the next event, Driver A may swap to a spec 8 unit with no penalty, and will be on his second engine for the season.
The usage of the spec 2-7 engines on another car (even within the same team) makes no difference to Driver A's engine allocation.

The same would be true if a team swapped engine suppliers during the season.
If Driver A has used one BMW engine for the first 8 races. If he then swaps to a Porsche engine, it does not matter if this is the spec 1, spec 8 or anywhere in between. This is still only the second engine for Driver A.
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