The P word strikes again - Page 6

Forda · 18 Sep 2019, 07:21 (Ref:3928633)

If everything was done right, then why is Seamer suddenly having to defend it?

The comments below the article are entertaining; and it would appear not many seem to be easily fooled.

johnh875 · 19 Sep 2019, 02:58 (Ref:3928776)

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Originally Posted by champcarman

Yep, just when they seem to have it (parity) fairly close they give themselves an opportunity to stuff it up again.

Yes, why do it for the current cars when there is a new gen coming in 2021? Or will it be delayed?

V8 Fireworks · 19 Sep 2019, 08:25 (Ref:3928824)

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Originally Posted by Supercars

Downforce on all cars will be reduced by around 15 percent, in a bid to improve the quality of the racing.

https://www.supercars.com/news/champ...6aDFWiMUux7guw

I missed the 15% reduction level on first reading.
A reduction of 15% hardly seems worth the bother.

85% * 350kgf = 297.5 kgf downforce at 200 km/hr for 2020

Why not reduce the downforce down to 250 kgf at 200 km/hr (28% reduction), or even 150 kgf at 200 km/hr (42% reduction)?

[Same goes for the 15hp power reduction (2%). Hardly worth the bother either!]

Silver GT · 27 Oct 2019, 21:10 (Ref:3937203)

Surely this has to be looked at again based on the weekends results. Or will it be okay because its Holdens filling all the top spots?

JAFA851 · 27 Oct 2019, 21:18 (Ref:3937206)

Why? The 2 fastest "Fords" took themselves out before the race even started.

Forda · 27 Oct 2019, 21:26 (Ref:3937207)

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Originally Posted by Silver GT

Surely this has to be looked at again based on the weekends results. Or will it be okay because its Holdens filling all the top spots?

Indeed it should - it's clearly gone too far now.

However this situation may have been very strategic in it's timing - with only two races left for the year, and new aero set for next year - any proposed adjustment would no doubt be deemed unnecessary.

Mixer · 27 Oct 2019, 21:32 (Ref:3937209)

Did you not see two of Ford's fastest drivers WRITE THEIR CARS OFF?

Tickford cars home 5, 6 and 7.

Forda · 27 Oct 2019, 22:42 (Ref:3937220)

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Originally Posted by Mixer

You retard.

Did you not see two of Ford's fastest drivers WRITE THEIR CARS OFF?

Any why might that have happened, Mixup?

Looks very much like over-compensatory driving by two of the best drivers, trying to keep their nobbled cars on the pace.

Holden have won their induced "parity" game for now - pity some of their boorish fans are unable to simply appreciate it.

Compromised · 27 Oct 2019, 22:52 (Ref:3937221)

"Dont change the Mustang, it's just Scotty being a freak"

Scotty out.

"Why Mustang no win?"

Tourer · 27 Oct 2019, 23:21 (Ref:3937224)

Parity adjustment based on the weekend not even remotely needed. Leading Mustang (with championship leader admitting that he was "over-driving" & not being smooth enough) was competitive with the leading Commodores on Saturday and IF it had have made a better start and converted its pole position to a lead, the result may have been quite different. On top of that, a.n.other quick Mustang of course binned itself during the shootout - gonski for the weekend.

Then on Sunday the championship leader binned his Mustang during qualifying, his teammate had a difficult race, bit of weirdness with the other Mustangs and the team with the most-experienced & previously successful pairings ran well and won the race in the absence of the best Mustang driver pairings.

Nothing stands out as needing a parity change.

rich07 · 28 Oct 2019, 00:28 (Ref:3937232)

If anyone needs a parity adjustment it be the Nissans. In light of their departure of the category they should be able to run the old RB26 or even Nissan’s current GT3 motor for rest of season as a throwback to happier times.

Jamolad · 28 Oct 2019, 00:39 (Ref:3937233)

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Originally Posted by Forda

Looks very much like over-compensatory driving by two of the best drivers, trying to keep their nobbled cars on the pace.

Both were on provisional pole - they weren't trying to keep on the pace; they were the pace setters.

Chaz made an error trying to beat Scott's time, not a Holden's time.

Scott was already on provisional pole and was trying to lower his own time even further, which was unnecessary as there was no chance he was missing out on the shootout with the time he had already banked.

So neither were trying to match or beat the time of a Holden or Nissan...Chaz was trying to beat Scotty's time, and Scotty was trying to beat Scotty's time.

Silver GT · 28 Oct 2019, 01:34 (Ref:3937239)

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Originally Posted by Mixer

You retard.

Did you not see two of Ford's fastest drivers WRITE THEIR CARS OFF?

Tickford cars home 5, 6 and 7.

with a response like that one can only assume your an angry Roland Dane rod swallower...the comment I made was in gest....but now I think about it all you Holden lovers complained from day one....just from 1st qualifying onwards....and have since caused 6 parity changes.

yes Tickford were 5th onwards....what were the first four....thats right 4 pugs from 3 different teams? and where did car 12 end up

Forda · 28 Oct 2019, 01:42 (Ref:3937243)

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Originally Posted by Jamolad

Both were on provisional pole - they weren't trying to keep on the pace; they were the pace setters.

Chaz made an error trying to beat Scott's time, not a Holden's time.

Scott was already on provisional pole and was trying to lower his own time even further, which was unnecessary as there was no chance he was missing out on the shootout with the time he had already banked.

So neither were trying to match or beat the time of a Holden or Nissan...Chaz was trying to beat Scotty's time, and Scotty was trying to beat Scotty's time.

"Provisional pole" in hindsight only, as what was to come was unknown at the time of the crash.

Scotty would have been well aware of his finishing position the day prior, and would have been trying to ensure a strong starting position; given the limited overtaking opportunities on that track, and the increasingly beneficial effects of parity adjustment #6, for the 888 cars in particular.

No need to fret though - "parity" is only ever considered or enacted if/when the Mustang is winning.

Jamolad · 28 Oct 2019, 02:02 (Ref:3937246)

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Originally Posted by Forda

Scotty would have been well aware of his finishing position the day prior, and would have been trying to ensure a strong starting position; given the limited overtaking opportunities on that track, and the increasingly beneficial effects of parity adjustment #6, for the 888 cars in particular.

Would accept that if he crashed during the shootout. He had already put in two laps that would get him in the shootout though...even when they took away his fastest lap due to causing the red flag he still would have been second-last out in the shootout (if he still had a car).

There was no need for him to try to lower his time even further given there was still the shoot-out to come.