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Old 12 May 2005, 18:50 (Ref:1299388)   #1
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Kicking-back should be qualifying in the top 5 on the gridKicking-back should be qualifying in the top 5 on the grid
Thompson and Plato call for WTCC/BTCC to avoid clashing calendars

Jason Plato and James Thompson want to race in both the BTCC and WTCC next year - and are calling on the series to produce calendars with no clashes.

Bring it on!
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Old 12 May 2005, 19:53 (Ref:1299426)   #2
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it would be great if that happened, especially if thompson could bring some more of his wtcc friends along as well.
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Old 12 May 2005, 20:10 (Ref:1299434)   #3
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Who would they race for? Because what will happen with contacts as they can't race of two different teams. Will Plato race with Seat in the WTCC and Thompson in the BTCC with Alfa?
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Old 12 May 2005, 20:13 (Ref:1299435)   #4
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They want to race the same car in both, yes.
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Old 12 May 2005, 21:52 (Ref:1299493)   #5
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it would be good for BTCC . Alfa in BTCC . maybe 2 cars ..
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Old 12 May 2005, 21:53 (Ref:1299495)   #6
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personally I would love the calendars not to clash but I certainly dont want to see the same drivers grabbing the best seats in both - there are a lot of drivers who would dearly love to race in either. It seems greedy to me.
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Old 12 May 2005, 22:53 (Ref:1299517)   #7
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The trouble is more or less every other racing series arranges itself around the F1 schedule, to avoid clashes with that behemoth.

I don't think there are enough weekends in the year to fit F1, WTCC, and BTCC all on seperate weekends...?
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Old 13 May 2005, 15:04 (Ref:1299978)   #8
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I would say the incentive of having Thommo and Priaulx racing in the series + some others from the WTCC (Huff and Rydell maybe?) should be bigger than the damage done by clashing with F1.

ITV could show BTCC Race 1+2 highlights at the end of any European GP and still have time to show Race 3 live anyway?
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Old 13 May 2005, 15:40 (Ref:1300019)   #9
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I think you misunderstood me Alfa Fan.
TOCA isn't worried about the TV footage being on the same day as F1, rather that the spectators that would be at trackside might rather stay at home for the F1 on TV.
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Old 13 May 2005, 16:24 (Ref:1300048)   #10
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You could easily have BTCC rounds on the same day as Grands Prix like USA, Canada, Brazil, Japan though.
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Old 13 May 2005, 16:35 (Ref:1300058)   #11
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ITV would never dedicate an entire 4-5 hours of an afternoon to motor racing (and, before any of you rant about how awful they are, neither would the BBC) because motor racing fans are only a small chunk of the people they want to watch their shows and thus give potential for advertising revenue.

Would people be able to get home from the track in time to watch the evening races? It might be okay for people who live very near to the track, but not for most fans. Of the races KB mentions only the US and Canada usually overlap with the F1 season anyway.

The odd BTCC and WTCC clash is probably a neccessity, because avoiding F1 has to be the priority. Even a series as big worldwide as MotoGP is scheduled around it.
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Old 13 May 2005, 17:55 (Ref:1300115)   #12
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I guessed it would be mentioned before I even looked in here - the TV deal.

In the longer term wouldn't it be better to give WTCC drivers and teams the chance to compete in the BTCC, by perhaps sacrificing a lot of the live tv, if needed ? The pulling power of WTCC teams and drivers racing in Britain would be massive, I feel.


Now it's down to TOCA and the FIA WTCC organisers to give us fans what we really do want to see.
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Old 13 May 2005, 19:19 (Ref:1300223)   #13
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More to the point how many teams actually want to do both BTCC and WTCC, or even are in a position to do both?

Any Alfa BTCC team would need to be paid for by the local importer (Alfa Romeo GB) and they are probably not in a position to do that. As they don't contribute to the WTCC program there's nothing to stop them entering the BTCC already, other than lack of budget.

BMW UK are unlikely to want to run both BTCC and WTCC programs, and I can't see BMW Germany or BMW Italy/Spain finding much benefit in running in Britain.

Ford only barely support the WTCC team as it is, so are unlikely to stump up the cash for a BTCC team as well.

Chevrolet? In direct competition to fellow GM brand Vauxhall? Not likely.

Which leaves us with SEAT, who already do both.

A nice idea for sure bu I can't see it's actually going to make that much difference.
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Old 14 May 2005, 00:03 (Ref:1300445)   #14
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Even if no team is currently singing the praises of the idea I don't see what harm it would do for Toca and the WTCC to organise non-conflicting weekends. It might be the catalyst that is needed for a few teams to contest a couple of British rounds if the schedule is down in black and white rather than rumour.
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Old 14 May 2005, 02:29 (Ref:1300484)   #15
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Back in the old days of the ETCC (say early to mid 80s) drivers would drive dual programs, taking in rounds of either the BTCC or DTM on their off weekends from the ETCC. (eg...Soper running some BTCC rounds in 1988)

I'm not sure no clashes would make much of a difference, there are already a few non-clashes this year, and only Plato is doing double duty at some WTCC rounds. If drivers wanted to do this bad enough they'd be doing it this year.
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