[Official] Round 13 - Italian Grand Prix

[Born Racer]

Schumacher's going a bit far now.

[G.Walker]

Finally lewis! I am a purist and enjoyed the art of defensive driving

[dsg]

So Lewis is finally past after Button showed him how. Lewis may be fast, but he's not real quick.

[G.Walker]

Great drive jenson button

[chunterer]

He really is becoming the better McLaren driver isn't he?

Good drives from Schu, Alguesuari and Di Resta, all strong.

[bjohnsonsmith]

Originally Posted by chunterer

He really is becoming the better McLaren driver isn't he?

Good drives from Schu, Alguesuari and Di Resta, all strong.

Personally, I think he is the better driver.

[Bononi]

Vettel on his way to his second WDC.

[strider]

Originally Posted by bjohnsonsmith

Personally, I think he is the better driver.

Likewise.

[chunterer]

Originally Posted by Bononi

Vettel on his way to his second WDC.

Bernie couldn't orchestrate a Ferrari win today!

I was sure Vettel would conk out though, but he was mega.

[Casper]

So, Vettel had the wrong gearing did he? Whose got egg on their face now?

[Sodemo]

I fell asleep for the last 20 or so laps. Did much happen?

[Adam43]

No, boring F1, as usual.

[JeremySmith]

Originally Posted by dsg

So Lewis is finally past after Button showed him how. Lewis may be fast, but he's not real quick.

Michael was told to cut out the repeated blocking by Ross Brawn no less..

[Marbot]

Hamilton seemed to be in point scoring mode today. Getting caught out on the restart wasn't too clever.

[skells22]

the one that caused the mess at turn one has been given a 5 place grid drop (I think that is another wasted pen as those HRT cars normally start at the back anyaway)

[Born Racer]

Hispania with a five-place grid penalty.

[Fox89]

Originally Posted by Marbot

Hamilton seemed to be in point scoring mode today. Getting caught out on the restart wasn't too clever.

Lewis has always been quite bad with restarts hasn't he? I don't remember the last time he really nailed one. Even when he was out in front with a good car, his restarts tended to cause others to crash!

[TrapezeArtist]

Originally Posted by Born Racer

Hispania with a five-place grid penalty.

Starting behind the medical car?

[TrapezeArtist]

Some of Schumacher's driving today was very good, including the genuine defensive driving. Unfortunately he also broke the rules, and deserved a penalty for that. However the stewards have rarely had the balls to penalise his driving (nor one or two others before him), so it's hardly surprising that he thinks he's above such trivia.

(Pause for the Schumacher-apologists to leap forward in indignant outrage.)

[Born Racer]

I suspect they didn't want to spoil the show of Schumacher being in such a good position (for a change). Unfortunately, F1 can be a business, a showbusiness at times like these, so something like sporting credibility including consistency goes out the window. I didn't think a lot of it was all that bit, but with the precedent set by previous penalties, one appeared lacking today.

[paddy]

Schumi should have had a penalty, but it's no surprise he didn't get one. I wonder how much fuss there would be on here if Hamilton had weaved on the straights and put a following car on the grass at high speed? If you look at the block at Curva Grande Schumi never took that line on any subsequent lap so it's quite clear what his intentions were. It made for great tv though so I'm sure Bernie was happy.

[stripedcat]

Originally Posted by TrapezeArtist

Some of Schumacher's driving today was very good, including the genuine defensive driving. Unfortunately he also broke the rules, and deserved a penalty for that. However the stewards have rarely had the balls to penalise his driving (nor one or two others before him), so it's hardly surprising that he thinks he's above such trivia.

(Pause for the Schumacher-apologists to leap forward in indignant outrage.)

Okay what Schumi did was wrong. However, he as been much worse than today. I am not trying to justify what he did. I think however, that a penalty would have been overkill. It is not like the situation with Rubens last year.

Lewis was caught knapping today a bit. First on the restart, then on his first overtake of Schumi. Still at least he didn't crash out. Only good restarts he has made are Canada 2007 and Fuji 2007. On those occasions he was awake.

Another win for the new German wonder - Mr. Vettel. His little scrap with Alonso was amazing. Kudos for him for doing that. Plus, he didn't have to risk that. I wonder whether he can wrap up the title in Singapore?

[Kempi]

What TGF and Hamilton did was called hard but fair racing. It's been quite common in the 80s and 90s but has been kind of out of fashion lately. It was amazing stuff and far away from anything to be penalized.

[schead]

Originally Posted by paddy

Schumi should have had a penalty, but it's no surprise he didn't get one. I wonder how much fuss there would be on here if Hamilton had weaved on the straights and put a following car on the grass at high speed? If you look at the block at Curva Grande Schumi never took that line on any subsequent lap so it's quite clear what his intentions were. It made for great tv though so I'm sure Bernie was happy.

LOL, it is funny what a short memory some people have. Malaysia 2010, Lewis made far more moves than Schumi did to stop Petrov from passing and got away with no penalty, just a warning. It is called Karma. Schumacher was copying Lewis, who was copying Schumacher.

Jenson showed Lewis how a McLaren is supposed to overtake. Lewis was presumably just thinking about his next party with p diddy.

[aki13]

Hi All

I thought todays race was quite a good one.

We saw some good hard driving from Michael today, I personally only felt the move into Lesmo 1 was beyond the rules, but he did change his defending after Ross Brawn came onto the radio

I also thought that Vettels drive was almost perfect, he bravely passed Alonso on the grass and then pulled a safe 15 seconds clear and then matched his pace to the rest.