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Old 23 Jun 2019, 13:50 (Ref:3913704)   #1
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Toyota Hypercar Discussion

Thought Iíd start a new thread to keep the TS050 discussion separate.

To kick things off, hereís the video of the mule testing, in case you havenít seen it...

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=p3s3cR2Jm2k
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Still think the black car is what should be their 'hypercar' for the new rules and the GR SS should be the road car that they take inspiration from. Apparently the GR SS had a lot shared with the TS050 when it was shown off early last year. It would be nice to know when the latest video was taken compared to the video with the black test car. We know their release dates but not when the actual testing took place. I say that because at the 2018 TAS (tokyo auto salon) during the GR presentation they said the car has already been testing at Fuji. So that'd be nice to find out if it was the actual camo'd car on the last video or the black one.
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Biggest things barrowed from the TS050 for the GR Super Sport were the engine, gearbox internals and hybrid system.

Am I right in still thinking that the Toyota LMP1 hypercar will be almost a LMP1 DPI in so far as it'll take external inspiration from the GR Super Sport, but under the skin will be a 2000mm wide LMP1?
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It would make more sense if that test mule in the video is the original concept car that was presented many months ago (but this time a real moving car, as concept cars presented in auto shows often aren't real...), hence the lack of race car bodywork. There apparently is an intention to make a production GR Super Sport at some point but that might move on and progress separately from the race car development.

The renders shown a week ago look a lot different.




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From what I understand, which isn't much, Toyota are basically making a DPI-like LMP1. It'll be built to LMP1 rules, but will take styling cues/elements from the GR Super Sport.
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The GR SS is the road hypercar. Toyota said that it was testing already. My guess is that the camo car was what they were talking about, not the black one. Their new lmp-hypercar won't be made from a road car, so that means the GR SS isn't the race car but it will take cues from the GR SS. It's all confusing but I don't think the GR SS that's shown testing in camo from the latest video, is going to be their race car. It's too early for them to be testing it when the rules are just now finalized. Toyota admitted that themselves when asked about the new regs situation. They said the ACO/FIA was leaving it really late for them to get a car built and ready for testing. If that's the case then the GR SS isn't going to be used for the new regs. It also seems like there's no more incentive to run a road car turned race car in the rules.
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