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Old 10 Jul 2019, 15:31 (Ref:3916866)   #1771
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as i tend to lean towards the drivers side of things, i would also throw some credit towards Alonso and Vandoorne...maybe more so Vandoorne as he potentially sacrificed his F1 career as he quietly and without complaint helped work out the last few years worth of cars issues out on track.
I think I remember seeing an article somewhere in which Alonso had made a similar comment regarding Vandoorne's contribution.

It's always unfortunate for a driver that deals with a team in the doldrums. Helps them move forward, but then is not around to reap the rewards.

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Old 10 Jul 2019, 15:39 (Ref:3916868)   #1772
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Old 10 Jul 2019, 15:47 (Ref:3916874)   #1773
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And in the end my larger point (that we would I hope agree upon) is that success/failure is not 100% due to the person at the top. But I did say that it's hard to have a successful organization regardless of your talent pool if you have a poor leader.

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I agree with that.
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Old 10 Jul 2019, 23:39 (Ref:3916931)   #1774
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I think I remember seeing an article somewhere in which Alonso had made a similar comment regarding Vandoorne's contribution.

It's always unfortunate for a driver that deals with a team in the doldrums. Helps them move forward, but then is not around to reap the rewards.

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Agreed.
And despite him being underwhelming (in comparison) on his return, I still put a lot of Mercedes' resurgence down to Schumacher's work in 2010-12.
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Old 11 Jul 2019, 01:24 (Ref:3916940)   #1775
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Andreas Seidl isn't an underling, he was Team Principal for the Porsche LMP1 program and is now the Team Principal at McLaren. Bringing in someone new, can have a transforming effect. Let's see if McLaren's turn-around continues, or if it's just a flash in the pan.
Mr Seidl has apparently convinced the McLaren owners to throw a metric truckload of cash at a new on-site wind tunnel...

And has brought a stability (from the outside looking in you see) to the technical group that doesnt seem to have been there for a little while.

It does have you wondering whether the Honda mess would have been such a mess with Mr Seidl in the driver's seat as it were....
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McLaren are definitely competing at a high level with their fan engagement, that's for sure...

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Old 7 Aug 2019, 14:11 (Ref:3921817)   #1777
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looks fast!

only a matter of time before Alonso inquires about the availability of this kids cardboard race seat then!
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Logan's cardboard box

Wonderful. Well done McLaren.
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Old 7 Aug 2019, 15:51 (Ref:3921827)   #1779
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Old 8 Aug 2019, 18:30 (Ref:3921976)   #1781
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Great. Reminds me of when we made a Damon Hill Williams out of cardboard boxes
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Great. Reminds me of when we made a Damon Hill Williams out of cardboard boxes
I know it was said at the time that he lacked the personality of his Father but to say a copy could be made of him out of cardboard...
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Old 9 Aug 2019, 07:47 (Ref:3922037)   #1784
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I remember we had a photo of it at the time. Not sure if I still have it
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It looks like McLaren will go back to using Mercedes engines in 2021.

http://classic.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/146266
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