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Old 7 Jul 2019, 19:16 (Ref:3916366)   #61
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Disappointing to see a time certain finish essentially under saftey car
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Old 8 Jul 2019, 01:42 (Ref:3916422)   #62
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Was wondering whether there might be more investigation into the BJR #8 fire yesterday... the siamesed fuel filler appeared to be leaking some Shell motion lotion before ever coupling onto the car... and not just a little bit.

The fuel filler (or their tyre changer from that side) usually wipes away excess spilled fuel with a rag that seems always to hand... but this was all over the ground, on the rear window/hatch of the car... then they start up n go... and whoofa... she's up like a skyrocket...

It a reason why the inhabitants of the pit garage proper are all wearing their fireproof pyjamas... and anyone that isnt probably shouldnt be allowed near the working front of the garage. But go look at media types and some team owners, and some other non-oily-bits touchers and there are many that should not be there...

The fire could have definitely been significantly worse...
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Old 8 Jul 2019, 02:08 (Ref:3916427)   #63
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Disappointing to see a time certain finish essentially under saftey car
Crompton mentioned it would be a "time certain" finish before the race even ******* started ?!?

The main event, one of the few free to air broadcasts, on QLD Govt coin and they cant even run a full race ??

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Old 8 Jul 2019, 02:38 (Ref:3916434)   #64
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Was wondering whether there might be more investigation into the BJR #8 fire yesterday... the siamesed fuel filler appeared to be leaking some Shell motion lotion before ever coupling onto the car... and not just a little bit.

The fuel filler (or their tyre changer from that side) usually wipes away excess spilled fuel with a rag that seems always to hand... but this was all over the ground, on the rear window/hatch of the car... then they start up n go... and whoofa... she's up like a skyrocket...

It a reason why the inhabitants of the pit garage proper are all wearing their fireproof pyjamas... and anyone that isnt probably shouldnt be allowed near the working front of the garage. But go look at media types and some team owners, and some other non-oily-bits touchers and there are many that should not be there...

The fire could have definitely been significantly worse...
Surprised the person on the "dead man" lever didn't activate it to immediately shut off the flow of fuel. Also surprised the extinguishers and fire marshals didn't preemptively douse the then un-burnt fuel before dropping the car down with it's hot exhaust. (Such as the Kmart 2002 Bathurst fiasco for example)

Agree with you on your point about garage dwellers should be wearing fire-proof gear, no matter who or what they are in the garage. Although the pit reporters do wear fireproof suits during races, just in case being in pitlane they do get caught up in a fire situation.
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Old 8 Jul 2019, 03:47 (Ref:3916441)   #65
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Crompton mentioned it would be a "time certain" finish before the race even ******* started ?!?

The main event, one of the few free to air broadcasts, on QLD Govt coin and they cant even run a full race ??

WTF ?
No - he didn't "mention that it would be" - he said that it would be 70 laps OR the time-certain finish. Although I think that he suggested that the weather made time-certain more of a possibility.

Otherwise I'm with you. I really thought these examples of being too cute with the time-certain gap were gone. If the race had to be time certain for a specific time, then it should have started earlier to allow more leeway between the time-certain deadline and the estimated finish time.

Weird.
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Old 8 Jul 2019, 04:08 (Ref:3916443)   #66
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Was wondering whether there might be more investigation into the BJR #8 fire yesterday... the siamesed fuel filler appeared to be leaking some Shell motion lotion before ever coupling onto the car... and not just a little bit.

The fire could have definitely been significantly worse...
Unless something dramatic has changed, I'd expect more investigation from Supercars and possibly from CAMS as well (team has already said they'll be doing that too). The fuel was bucketing out of the hose long before it was on the car - looked like the hose may have come off the coupling - not good. Apart from the fire risk, I guess it would also mean that the team didn't comply with the regulations of fuel fill for that car.

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Surprised the person on the "dead man" lever didn't activate it to immediately shut off the flow of fuel. Also surprised the extinguishers and fire marshals didn't preemptively douse the then un-burnt fuel before dropping the car down with it's hot exhaust.
Agree completely re dead-man - that was my immediate reaction as it was happening - may have simply had a "human" moment and froze - it happens.
Also agree with fire suppressant but I don't think that the marshals or extinguisher people from the team had a chance to do it really - the car was dropped and gonski before there was an opportunity.

The competitive juices were flowing and it's bloody hard for a team to switch from competitive to safety mode quickly in that situation - the car should probably have been left in the air, suppression taken place on top of the fuel and when clear, the car dropped and sent but it's easy to say that on Monday with hindsight - at the time, a tough call.

Non-firesuit people at the front of the garage during refuelling stops is an issue though and needs to be looked at - it may need some kind of further identification within the garage to manage it but definitely something to look at.
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Old 9 Jul 2019, 09:53 (Ref:3916659)   #67
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Wonder if RD, has invoiced BJR for Dutton’s time and use of the 888 fire extinguisher?
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Old 9 Jul 2019, 11:27 (Ref:3916678)   #68
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Wonder if RD, has invoiced BJR for Dutton’s time and use of the 888 fire extinguisher?
With the amount of crashes BJR have had. They'd be 888's best customer.

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Old 9 Jul 2019, 19:23 (Ref:3916733)   #69
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Non-firesuit people at the front of the garage during refuelling stops is an issue though and needs to be looked at - it may need some kind of further identification within the garage to manage it but definitely something to look at.
Worse when there are children there.

Is it me. or did there seem to be a lack of extinguishers coming from behind the fuel hose side of the garage, or was the delay because the pin was still in ? 4k replay?

As others have mention, shame a preemptive blast of AFFF was laid down.
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Old 9 Jul 2019, 20:28 (Ref:3916742)   #70
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Is it me. or did there seem to be a lack of extinguishers coming from behind the fuel hose side of the garage, or was the delay because the pin was still in ? 4k replay?
The team extinguisher person was in there very quickly - footage showed a fire marshal taking longer as there seemed to be a bit of a struggle getting the pin out. In reality not much delay at all & no criticism of the marshal(s) - they're positioned at various points in pit lane and would have needed to cover more ground to get to the car than the team extinguisher person who is already right there.
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Was wondering whether there might be more investigation into the BJR #8 fire yesterday... the siamesed fuel filler appeared to be leaking some Shell motion lotion before ever coupling onto the car... and not just a little bit.
Investigation confirmed here with CAMS, Supercars and BJR all part of the process. Started interviews etc on Sunday after the race.
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Old 13 Jul 2019, 13:23 (Ref:3917345)   #72
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No - he didn't "mention that it would be" - he said that it would be 70 laps OR the time-certain finish. Although I think that he suggested that the weather made time-certain more of a possibility.

Otherwise I'm with you. I really thought these examples of being too cute with the time-certain gap were gone. If the race had to be time certain for a specific time, then it should have started earlier to allow more leeway between the time-certain deadline and the estimated finish time.

Weird.
I thought there was a change in policy or whatever, to start races earlier if the threat of substantial rain was reasonable, after the GC600 debacle last year. Obviously not, because they just did exactly the same thing here. This lot make slow learners look like brain surgeons.............
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I thought there was a change in policy or whatever, to start races earlier if the threat of substantial rain was reasonable, after the GC600 debacle last year. Obviously not, because they just did exactly the same thing here. This lot make slow learners look like brain surgeons.............
Yep, this was announced.
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