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Old 1 Feb 2021, 13:39 (Ref:4032793)   #251
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Could have, but I somehow suspect not 'easily'. Bearing in mind how Russell made Bottas look like the novice twice earlier in the race. I have to be careful though, I'm sounding like a Russell fanboy again.....
Maybe not. Although one has a good history of managing car and tyres over a whole race distance and one doesn’t, yet at least.
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Old 1 Feb 2021, 13:41 (Ref:4032795)   #252
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supporting many of the points on this thread, next time you’re on the road, look at the people who are driving new and recent mercs.

they’re all young.
The whole Mercedes model for the last 20 years has been selling mass-produced cars to the masses. The plan of selling long-lasting luxury to the wealthy was abandoned as not profitable enough by a long way.
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Old 1 Feb 2021, 13:58 (Ref:4032800)   #253
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Did all these self important people who bought middle range Merc’s noticed the same car insignia was on taxi’s , vans , trucks and busses

Not a lot of snob value in that!
Presumably few of those don’t mind taking the knee.
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Old 1 Feb 2021, 14:18 (Ref:4032805)   #254
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IMO it's fair to say that Merc do make good cars, having owned one or two, but so do many others. I don't recall Merc using Lewis in any adverts, but I stand to be corrected here. Frankly, because a racing driver races for a team that manufactures cars doesn't make me want to buy one.

Also the "Russell effect" has been discounted by Toto and I'm happy to accept that.

Politically I understood Domenicali to say that Lewis is a force for good and he wants him to keep doing what he's doing.

All of which IMO really points to money or "compensation" as being the sticking point.
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Old 1 Feb 2021, 14:22 (Ref:4032807)   #255
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IMO it's fair to say that Merc do make good cars, having owned one or two, but so do many others. I don't recall Merc using Lewis in any adverts, but I stand to be corrected here.
Don't sit down just yet then:

https://dailycommercials.com/mercedes-benz-ft-alicia-keys-roger-federer-lewis-hamilton/
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Old 1 Feb 2021, 14:25 (Ref:4032808)   #256
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for some reason I can't get that to play and I'm on superfast fibre. But does that appear anywhere other than that obscure website? Not that it matters.
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for some reason I can't get that to play and I'm on superfast fibre. But does that appear anywhere other than that obscure website? Not that it matters.
It's on YouTube if you search 'Hamilton S Class'.

An interesting point is that it is only just over a month old, and Hamilton is part of the 2021 Mercedes advertising campaigns. My guess is that he may appear in a Superbowl advert this weekend confirming his 2021 drive for the team.
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So Sir Lewis in a Merc ad and least known of the three celebrities?
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It's on YouTube if you search 'Hamilton S Class'.

An interesting point is that it is only just over a month old, and Hamilton is part of the 2021 Mercedes advertising campaigns. My guess is that he may appear in a Superbowl advert this weekend confirming his 2021 drive for the team.
In all seriousness. A Mercedes commercial for the NFL Superbowl staring Lewis will leave 95+% of the viewers (predominantly US based) scratching their head and asking... Who was that?

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In all seriousness. A Mercedes commercial for the NFL Superbowl staring Lewis will leave 95+% of the viewers (predominantly US based) scratching their head and asking... Who was that?

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What I mean is that he will be in a Mercedes advert along with some other better known stars in the US, and his footage will identify him as one of their 2021 drivers.
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I believe I am one of the few people who watch NFL and F1! Now if they got Colin Kaepernick in a Merc then there would be a lot of people who couldn’t cope, they’d be brought to their knees.

I think a Merc appears driven by the guy from Wkend in the Pepsi ad promoting the half time show.

Rarely do we see ads (on mainstream telly anyway) with F1 drivers in it. Last I remember was for the Megane with the which had Alonso and Trulli’s bottoms featured. Or was it Flav’s?

Not sure it was actually on proper telly, but I remember a Hamilton advert from 1997. It was a Merc one ages ago with him and Alonso. It was good fun. Especially the end.
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It's on YouTube if you search 'Hamilton S Class'.

An interesting point is that it is only just over a month old, and Hamilton is part of the 2021 Mercedes advertising campaigns. My guess is that he may appear in a Superbowl advert this weekend confirming his 2021 drive for the team.
Hmm, not exactly mainstream, but I take your point, it could be that they are waiting to roll it out with a big announcement. Mind you, an S Class isn't exactly a car for the masses.
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What I mean is that he will be in a Mercedes advert along with some other better known stars in the US, and his footage will identify him as one of their 2021 drivers.
Are you saying the delay on signing is to provide drama with an Superbowl unveiling? I don't think you are, but if so, that would be a lot of effort for effectively a lot of head scratching by US viewers. If the target is the F1 audience an different method of delivering the news (focus on a Eurocentric sport or event) would be used.

Assuming he is in a Mercedes commercial for the Superbowl. My guess that is more about that being a long time in the works marketing effort and likely would say zero about him being a 2021 Mercedes driver or not. Where I am coming from is that no doubt Mercedes fully intended/wanted/wants him to drive for them in 2021. But note the green foliage in the footage for that commercial. My guess the footage was shot months ago (unless they found a southern hemisphere location more recently and I think that is probably unlikely but who knows). My point is long lead times. So I would not use any current commercials as "reading the tea leaves" unless the commercial is specifically to address the topic of 2021 driver lineup somehow. My 2 cents!

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So Sir Lewis in a Merc ad and least known of the three celebrities?
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Rarely do we see ads (on mainstream telly anyway) with F1 drivers in it. Last I remember was for the Megane with the which had Alonso and Trulli’s bottoms featured. Or was it Flav’s?

Not sure it was actually on proper telly, but I remember a Hamilton advert from 1997. It was a Merc one ages ago with him and Alonso. It was good fun. Especially the end.
Isn't he in the Ineos advert on TV at the moment?
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Are you saying the delay on signing is to provide drama with an Superbowl unveiling? I don't think you are, but if so, that would be a lot of effort for effectively a lot of head scratching by US viewers. If the target is the F1 audience an different method of delivering the news (focus on a Eurocentric sport or event) would be used.
I agree. I don't think the plan was for the announcement to be linked to a Superbowl advert, but that the Superbowl advert was planned and filmed with him in it.
Knowing his US profile, they would undoubtedly have to introduce who he is to the viewer, so when he appears a banner on the screen will read something like: 'AMG Mercedes Formula One Driver'.

At this point, the speculation in this thread over him signing will be answered, and we can move onto the next stage of analysis over his F1 presence.

Do I think the Mercedes Superbowl advert is the method they chose to reveal his signing? No.
Do I think he will appear in a Superbowl advert? Yes.
Do I think that advert will confirm his as a driver for 2021? Yes.

Who knows, maybe he'll be driving The Weeknd out in a Merc for the half time show.....
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Isn't he in the Ineos advert on TV at the moment?
I believe you are correct but it won't convince me to buy an Ineos.
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and then they go on twitter to find out who he is. SB commercials are a show unto themselves with a lot of sites and programs devoted to breaking them down for the consumers.

i believe some of big/traditional SB advertisers are opting for more covid related awareness ads, some, i suspect, will focus on social awareness, while others will go for entertaining.

im thinking there will be extra attention about the ads this year so it will be interesting to see how this plays out.
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I believe you are correct but it won't convince me to buy an Ineos.
I really like their new product, but you can’t get it with a manual gearbox.

I haven’t seen an Ineos TV ad. Unless you count the grand tours! Is it on mainstream telly in the UK?
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On the subject of Ineos, this will be interesting for the green energy groups.

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I haven’t seen an Ineos TV ad. Unless you count the grand tours! Is it on mainstream telly in the UK?
Yes but maybe some of the more obscure (cheaper?) Freeview channels. I'm sure that where I've seen it.

I drive a Merc, does that make me a young urban professional?

Or does an 11 year old Sprinter van not count?

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Yes but maybe some of the more obscure (cheaper?) Freeview channels. I'm sure that where I've seen it.

I drive a Merc, does that make me a young urban professional?

Or does an 11 year old Sprinter van not count?
You're driving a young urban professional!
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I haven’t seen an Ineos TV ad. Unless you count the grand tours! Is it on mainstream telly in the UK?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sksvEYx44yQ

It's been shown regularly on TV here....
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It's been shown regularly on TV here....
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