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Old 7 Sep 2020, 09:41 (Ref:4000718)   #2566
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I think they're designed/built differently for impact/road rash etc. bike helmets are often heavier
But would a 30 quid Lidl one fare any better
It would be interesting to find out if anyone has ever been prosecuted for using one on a motorcycle on the road ? I'm sure it would be safer than a turban
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Old 7 Sep 2020, 10:32 (Ref:4000726)   #2567
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The price reflects the quality in this matter. Mind you R&D aren't cheap tho. I ride with a Shoei because its light but from experience I know the Arai to be very safe and comfy, the best available IMO. The materials are different too, multi layers for japanese and some euro production, injected plastic for many others. I wouldn't buy a cheap helmet because I've only one head and, as you, would prefer to ride with a good car helmet than a 30 quid bike homologated crap. I pay much more for my gloves…
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Old 7 Sep 2020, 10:34 (Ref:4000728)   #2568
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Ride with a turban means you already had an accident!
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Old 7 Sep 2020, 10:45 (Ref:4000732)   #2569
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I've had Bell lids for years but my last one was crap so I got an AGV recently , which is lighter, quieter and more comfortable. funnnily enough similar to my first helmet my Dad gave me in 1987!

given some of the headwear I've seen scooterists and bikers wearing in recent years a turban is probably quite safe.
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Old 7 Sep 2020, 11:27 (Ref:4000738)   #2570
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Main difference between a car helmet and motorcycle helmet are the following:

Vision, larger, higher and wider eyeport for motorcyles while smaller for cars, this being linked to intrusion most notably for cars and need of a larger view when riding due to the angles and movement of the head required say at a junction as well. Just like aerodynamic and ventilation are different for closed/open cars and use of certain stability or vent appendices.

Neck protection, they are different shells and due to the fact you have a seat and harness in a car, the movement in impact will be different just like the provisions for HANS devices and the lack of abrasion protection that comes taking into account that modern design are made to work with the lateral support provided in all modern day race cars be it a single seater or through modern seating and padding available.

As opposed, the neck will be freed on a motorcycle helmet as movement will be important in the event of a crash not to break the neck, hence why they end short on the back in order not to snap the spine as opposed to the car one, they are also more resistand due to abrasion need.

Last is the fire rating and "SA" rating which also come into play. Anyway, you only have one head, be it car, motorcycle or cycling, it does matter.
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Old 7 Sep 2020, 14:20 (Ref:4000771)   #2571
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I've had Bell lids for years but my last one was crap so I got an AGV recently , which is lighter, quieter and more comfortable. funnnily enough similar to my first helmet my Dad gave me in 1987!
I remember my first helmet was a Buco open face but when it came to serious things, Suzie T20, I had an orange AGV! Agree with you, the new ones offer a lot of comfort and are quiet.
What I appreciate with japanese productions is that you can get parts to refurbish them and I love the photochromic screen of my Shoeï.
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I was one of the first in our area in the UK to have a full face crash helmet in the mid 60s, it was a Bellstar that was quiet heavy and would put a strain on your neck if riding at 90 plus for miles sitting up, I didn't have clip-ons and rear-sets like some others
What amuses me is that race crash helmets have a life even if you never wore it and kept it in cotton wool in the dark, whereas a road one can get bashed about/dropped/and involved in a crash but there is no legislation for how long you can use it, the same with seat belts in cars that could easily be 50 years old.

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Certainly they were heavy things but what an improvement compared to a Cromwell and Climax goggles! The damn thing can give you a headache without accident! And I bless the guy who invented the PinLock!
I decided to throw away a race helmet which was still in date, perspiring ruined the inside pads. Last time I wore it was at Silverstone. Difficult decision to take cose he brought many goods things. Driving mainly tin tops I've rather an open face than a full face helmet because of the heat and the better view they offer to the dash instruments for instance and door to door racing too.
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Old 7 Sep 2020, 19:05 (Ref:4000810)   #2574
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I decided to throw away a race helmet which was still in date, perspiring ruined the inside pads.

Surely you mean you retired it to your museum?


Discarding a helmet with added DNA provenance would be to rob something of value from future generations of racing aficionados.
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You'll have a pay tons of $ to admire one part at NY museum, the other being studied by Nasa experts! To the bin I tell you, just removed the radio system. Good supporter of the business…
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I have kept all my crash hats. The Shoei in the middle definatley saved my life.
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My racing exploits were all conducted on a shoestring, and I needed two evening jobs on top of my day job to even do that, but, being a bit of a wuss, one thing that I didn't scrimp on was safety. One of my first purchases was a John Aley roll-over bar, and I was one of the early saloon drivers to wear the latest fireproof Nomex suits plus the full fireproof underwear set with a face mask which I updated to a balaclava later on. Helmet was a Bell open face, first without a peak, and then replaced by one with a peak.

And this was at a time when drivers such as the late, great Gerry Marshall would jump in a racing car in his street clothes, and drive it without rollover protection.
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My racing exploits were all conducted on a shoestring, and I needed two evening jobs on top of my day job to even do that, but, being a bit of a wuss, one thing that I didn't scrimp on was safety. One of my first purchases was a John Aley roll-over bar, and I was one of the early saloon drivers to wear the latest fireproof Nomex suits plus the full fireproof underwear set with a face mask which I updated to a balaclava later on. Helmet was a Bell open face, first without a peak, and then replaced by one with a peak.

And this was at a time when drivers such as the late, great Gerry Marshall would jump in a racing car in his street clothes, and drive it without rollover protection.
I must admit Mike that when I see footage of saloon car racing from the 60's & 70's I always flinch at the lack of mandatory safety equipment. Very few appear to have had roll cages and those that did just had a simple hoop and centre brace back to the parcel shelf! Plus low backed seats and other standard looking items! Compared to a modern BTCC car for example it looks frightening!
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I am afraid I come into that category.My first races were in jeans and a jumper. In my defense we just did not know any better."happy days".
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