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Old 11 Jul 2008, 23:40 (Ref:2249489)   #1
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Provisional 2009 BTCC calendar

Obviously quite keen to get the dates out there, I can't remember when last dates were released but not venues! (Now someone come along and tell me they did the same only a few years ago! )

Rounds 1/2/3 4-5 April
Rounds 4/5/6 25-26 April
Rounds 7/8/9 16-17 May
Rounds 10/11/12 30-31 May
Rounds 13/14/15 13-14 June
Rounds 16/17/18 1-2 August
Rounds 19/20/21 15-16 August
Rounds 22/23/24 29-30 August
Rounds 25/26/27 19-20 September
Rounds 28/29/30 3-4 October
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Old 12 Jul 2008, 06:54 (Ref:2249561)   #2
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They are simply the weekends there is not an F1 race scheduled.Though I don't know why a 6 week 'holiday' in June-July is needed?
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Old 12 Jul 2008, 08:52 (Ref:2249590)   #3
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TL, I vaguely remember a similar announcement of dates without venues some years ago but can't be certain so I'll give that to you.

The June/July break is due to, in TOCA's words, "to avoid some clashing broadcast requirements". That normally means football or rugby but don't think there are any major tournaments next year. Best guess would be the Twenty20 Cricket World Cup which is being hosted by England in June 2009.

We've only had a couple of calendars released and already we have a clash - Aug 29/30 is the DTM's Brands Hatch round.
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Old 12 Jul 2008, 15:32 (Ref:2249701)   #4
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The July Break may be to avoid the Tour De France next year, as it's messing up the Snetterton coverage tomorrow and likewise the next round at Oulton.

Unless ITV are about to announce a coup regarding the terrestrial coverage of the Cricket, I can't see that being a problem.
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Unless ITV are about to announce a coup regarding the terrestrial coverage of the Cricket, I can't see that being a problem.
It would have to be a massive coup as the ECB were paid a lot of money to commit suicide.
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Old 12 Jul 2008, 21:21 (Ref:2249848)   #6
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However there is the British GP and Wimbledon during that break. I think Alan Gow also said that the teams have began to like a break mid season - who can blame them, if only we ever got a 'proper' summer!
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Aren't the British GP and the Wimbledon final usually the same weekend?

EDIT (again) Keep the discussions about tomorrows TV in the relevant thread folks, not the 2009 thread! - touringlegend

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GP is a bit earlier - 21st June - next year. Granted it's only a week after the final BTCC race of the first half of the season.
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However there is the British GP and Wimbledon during that break. I think Alan Gow also said that the teams have began to like a break mid season - who can blame them, if only we ever got a 'proper' summer!
Don't see why they need a break-NASCAR gets only 2 weekends off-Feb to November
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TL, I vaguely remember a similar announcement of dates without venues some years ago but can't be certain so I'll give that to you.

The June/July break is due to, in TOCA's words, "to avoid some clashing broadcast requirements". That normally means football or rugby but don't think there are any major tournaments next year. Best guess would be the Twenty20 Cricket World Cup which is being hosted by England in June 2009.

We've only had a couple of calendars released and already we have a clash - Aug 29/30 is the DTM's Brands Hatch round.
Maybe they can do the Croft or Knockhill-race that weekend. That won't make to much difference in terms of spectators.
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We've only had a couple of calendars released and already we have a clash - Aug 29/30 is the DTM's Brands Hatch round.
And I wouldn't be surprised if there is clash with the WTCC again either!
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There are only so many weekends... Take last weekend, with WTCC in Estoril, DTM in Zandvoort and STCC in Falkenberg it was another wellfilled weekend. It also has something to do with the fact that the seasons of the DTM and the BTCC start so late. If there were some races in march, it would free up some dates a bit more.
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If there were some races in march, it would free up some dates a bit more.
This is what happens when you try to race in March in Britain...Racing in the snow
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There are only so many weekends... Take last weekend, with WTCC in Estoril, DTM in Zandvoort and STCC in Falkenberg it was another wellfilled weekend. It also has something to do with the fact that the seasons of the DTM and the BTCC start so late. If there were some races in march, it would free up some dates a bit more.
I realise it's a case of too many races and not enough weekends but to be honest a BTCC/WTCC/DTM/STCC clash such as the above isn't really the problem. What is a problem is where two major series are in the same country at the same time. The WTCC crowd in Estoril is unlikely to be greatly effected by Swedish fans wanting to be in Falkenberg instead, however it would have a problem if the WTCC was at Anderstorp that weekend.

As you suggested earlier, if BTCC was at Croft or Knockhill the same week as DTM at Brands then at least the impact would be lessened.
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This is what happens when you try to race in March in Britain...Racing in the snow

I remember that meeting, although two weeks earlier at Mallory it was nice and sunny IIRC
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BTCC used to start in march when it supported the F1 Race of Champions.Could revive Boxing Day at Brands Hatch only cancelled once due to weather that I recall in 20 years.
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And ITV will love that, won't they
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However there is the British GP and Wimbledon during that break. I think Alan Gow also said that the teams have began to like a break mid season - who can blame them, if only we ever got a 'proper' summer!
looks like they are also trying to avoid Goodwood Festival of Speed.
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http://btcc.net/html/generalnews_detail.php?id=1065

Rounds 1/2/3 - 4-5 April - Brands Hatch, Kent
Rounds 4/5/6 - 25-26 April - Thruxton, Hants
Rounds 7/8/9 - 16-17 May - Donington Park, Leics
Rounds 10/11/12 - 30-31 May - Oulton Park, Cheshire
Rounds 13/14/15 - 13-14 June - Croft, North Yorks
Rounds 16/17/18 - 01-02 August - Snetterton, Norfolk
Rounds 19/20/21 - 15-16 August - Knockhill, Fife
Rounds 22/23/24 - 29-30 August - Silverstone, Northants
Rounds 25/26/27 - 19-20 September - Rockingham, Northants
Rounds 28/29/30 - 03-04 October - Brands Hatch, Kent

Final round on Brands GP, but we've heard that before and it's always ended up back on the Indy.
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Ah but wasn't there a rumour the WTCC were perhaps going to Silverstone in the future ?
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True. Apparently Toca have secured three days on the GP loop to the support races can test on Friday.
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Rockingham in September = cold.

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and april this year was any warmer????
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