Overtaking

Redracer77 · 3 Oct 2005, 15:00 (Ref:1422901)

Take a look at these images - http://www.ff1600.co.uk/index.php?id=661

Out of interest would you say that Keith was alongside Nev in his move at Sterlings in race 1 of MSV at the A1 GP?

Should Nev have given Keith the corner or was he not level enough?

Not saying anyone is in the wrong just interested to see what "level" means and anyones thoughts on overtaking.

heel'n'toe-no · 3 Oct 2005, 15:23 (Ref:1422931)

For me the corner was Nev's. The interlocking wheels are the give away for me in the second of the photo's. If you are in that situation, I think the driver staring at another cars front wheel should steer away then back off to allow the corner to be taken safely then try again on the next corner.

It's pointless doing anything else because at best, you wind up in the kitty litter wishing you had turned away and the worst case scenario was evident in the A1 GP race. Thankfully those yokes are solid.

Athgoe Racing · 3 Oct 2005, 19:35 (Ref:1423129)

To be fair to keith my left hand mirror fell down and i was having to hold it with my hand to see where he was if i saw him there i would have given room and still kept my position coz i would have been on the inside for clearways.

kdempsey · 3 Oct 2005, 22:07 (Ref:1423230)

[B]I thought Nev could see me then noticed he didn't and tried to pull outta it but id left it abit late, was a pitty coz we were havin a great race!!

Redracer77 · 4 Oct 2005, 09:22 (Ref:1423494)

Its an interesting one as the first image looks like Keith was alongside but the next image it looks like the corner is Nev's.

Do you have to be "level" to be classed as your corner? How much of your car needs to be alongside the other car?

I need to get my car to last more than a few laps before I think about overtaking!!

Although Matt Howson is testing it today so hopefully we can solve the problem.

JustinDawkins · 4 Oct 2005, 11:46 (Ref:1423594)

Leave Howson it it for the races and that will solve the problem :-)

Triple J Motorsport · 4 Oct 2005, 12:21 (Ref:1423627)

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Originally Posted by JustinDawkins

Leave Howson it it for the races and that will solve the problem :-)

EH??

**Woolley** · 4 Oct 2005, 13:01 (Ref:1423655)

Looking from the outside, I'd have thought there was a simple question in any move like this.

"If I take my line, can the car trying to overtake avoid me, or is he already (over)committed?"

If the answer's 'no, he can't avoid me', don't take your line. Whatever the rights or wrongs of it, physics is always going to win. Avoid the shunt, carry on racing.

In this case, since both driver's are clearly ok about it, then it goes down as a racing incident anyway. Sometimes accidents happen, and that would seem to be the case here.

Triple J Motorsport · 4 Oct 2005, 15:58 (Ref:1423764)

Not talking about this incident or drivers

There are a few drivers who commit to passes on the inside when at best half way along side. They are totally reliant on you seeing them and then giving them room by running wide yourself. If you turn in they are unable to stop assuming your wheels aren’t interlocked anyway. Normally it’s the guy on the outside (being passed) who comes off worse, if his rear wheel runs over the other guys front wheel the guy on the outside's airborne!

Worst of all is where you try to pull level or are level on the straight and the other guy tries to push you off the road or into the pitwall

JustinDawkins · 5 Oct 2005, 08:35 (Ref:1424229)

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Originally Posted by RayFF

EH??

I was trying to suggest that if RR left My Howson in his car for the races then he would no problem overtaking.

It was a bit Heal 'n' Toe but I thought it was funny!

Triple J Motorsport · 5 Oct 2005, 09:05 (Ref:1424254)

Quote:

Originally Posted by JustinDawkins

Leave Howson it it for the races and that will solve the problem :-)

Oh "Leave Howson IN it for the races and that will solve the problem :-)"

Got it now!

JustinDawkins · 5 Oct 2005, 11:01 (Ref:1424322)

told you it was funny!

heel'n'toe-no · 10 Oct 2005, 16:56 (Ref:1429784)

Quote:

Originally Posted by JustinDawkins

I was trying to suggest that if RR left My Howson in his car for the races then he would no problem overtaking.

It was a bit Heal 'n' Toe but I thought it was funny!

.....Now that's Heel 'n' Toe.

And trust me - it's funny

Redracer77 · 10 Oct 2005, 19:35 (Ref:1429976)

Quote:

Originally Posted by RayFF

Oh "Leave Howson IN it for the races and that will solve the problem :-)"

Got it now!

Dont you laugh at the Joke Mr Ray..... I was beating you at the A1 with a duff engine so maybe put Matt in your car !!

Triple J Motorsport · 10 Oct 2005, 23:32 (Ref:1430249)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Redracer77

Dont you laugh at the Joke Mr Ray..... I was beating you at the A1 with a duff engine so maybe put Matt in your car !!

Oh that was you sorry couldn't see anything cos someone covered me in oil !!!

Redracer77 · 11 Oct 2005, 09:48 (Ref:1430534)

Quote:

Originally Posted by RayFF

Oh that was you sorry couldn't see anything cos someone covered me in oil !!!

LOL Sorry!!! I did pull off when I bothered to look in my mirrors to see the smoke!!!

Triple J Motorsport · 11 Oct 2005, 14:03 (Ref:1430742)

Didn't slow your motor to start with it was quicker than the others in our group.

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