Peterborough Motor Club announcement

AndyT · 19 Dec 2006, 20:58 (Ref:1795111)

Our provisional date of 22nd April for our Silverstone meeting has been withdrawn. As Silverstone needed to offer it to the chairman of the MSA for his other interests (conflict of interest ?). We had 6 races pencilled in for that date.

2 other dates were offered but we were unable to get the races for those dates. Even though the reason for the 22nd April being withdrawn has gone elsewhere in Northamptonshire, this date is no longer on offer to us.

As a result of this situation, we are unable to organise a meeting for 2007 at Silverstone, which would have been our 57th. Another blow to grassroots motorsport.

Thanks for your assistance in the past & hope to be back in 2008.

Andy T

The Fat Clerk · 19 Dec 2006, 21:26 (Ref:1795147)

Bother, damn, blast etc, why doesn't Mr Gow take his Touring Cars & put them somewhere!

roys1 · 19 Dec 2006, 21:30 (Ref:1795154)

http://www.fia.com/resources/documen...lendar2007.pdf

I find it interesting to note that the FIA website dated 15/12/2006 link above shows TOCA tour at Silverstone 21/04/2007... Comments

**Woolley** · 20 Dec 2006, 13:57 (Ref:1795778)

I'd have thought it would be best at Rockingham, after all, if you're grandstanding it makes sense to use the place with the better grandstands...

Well, it ain't about motor sport, is it?

Bad news about Peterborough MC. I just wish the profesionals and governing bodies could get themselves properly sorted out nice and early so that the unpaid clubbies can work with a stable calendar. I'd really expect the Chairman of the MSA to set a good example.

I'm sorry, I really don't know why I said that last sentence.

chezza · 20 Dec 2006, 14:18 (Ref:1795799)

I agree with you Woolley, even if your not sure why you said it.

Its certainly a shame about the PMC meeting, its usually a great meeting. Also the BARC SEC Saloon Championship were going to run at the meeting so its caused us trouble with having to sort out other dates and that.

Pike · 20 Dec 2006, 14:41 (Ref:1795858)

Same old story money talks, now I must re-work that weekend as I was going to do the PMC but very very unlikely to go to the touring cars.

The Fat Clerk · 20 Dec 2006, 14:47 (Ref:1795868)

You & me both.

chezza · 20 Dec 2006, 14:51 (Ref:1795874)

Well the touring cars are supposed to be at Rockingham anyway and Silverstone will have an empty weekend as they aren't willing to release the date yet (so there could be some truth in the FIA document).

I think there could be a possible conflict of interest here. After all if something ends up going to the MSA court...whos to say said chairman isn't going to help to sway the decision?!

I'm also not planning on doing any of the touring car dates...clubbies were to be my focus this year...and PMC was one of the good ones!!

Alan Green · 20 Dec 2006, 22:22 (Ref:1796246)

Please don't spite the Rockingham meeting, just because it's not Silverstone, or because it's mucked up this particular clubs events. This has been a commercial decision way above any of our heads, and hopefully the Rockingham weekend will be a great success in Silverstones place.

Regardless of which circuit it's at it'll still need marshalling, and I hope thatmany marshals use this event to give Rockingham a try (or any of the other Rockingham dates in '07 for that matter...)

Al.

**Woolley** · 20 Dec 2006, 23:15 (Ref:1796273)

Actually, we're not spiting Rockingham, it's the clubbie at Silverstone being turned over by supposedly 'important' stuff. However, I'll still be missing Rockingham because it's BTCC, not because it's Rockingham. I really hope the Rock takes off properly, and gets used for it's primary role of 'proper' oval.

Actually, maybe the Tourers could use the oval, then they'd be even more like banger racing?

Pike · 21 Dec 2006, 18:10 (Ref:1796983)

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It Would be just like NASCAR except for 1/4 of the cars and half the speed!!! Probaly have more incidents though

thereal_tdb · 21 Dec 2006, 20:12 (Ref:1797061)

Quote:

Originally Posted by AndyT

Our provisional date of 22nd April for our Silverstone meeting has been withdrawn. As Silverstone needed to offer it to the chairman of the MSA for his other interests (conflict of interest ?). We had 6 races pencilled in for that date.

2 other dates were offered but we were unable to get the races for those dates. Even though the reason for the 22nd April being withdrawn has gone elsewhere in Northamptonshire, this date is no longer on offer to us.

As a result of this situation, we are unable to organise a meeting for 2007 at Silverstone, which would have been our 57th. Another blow to grassroots motorsport.

Thanks for your assistance in the past & hope to be back in 2008.

Andy T

The BTCC race weekend will be at Rockingham on the 22nd of April, confirmed and will not change!

I think it is unfair to blame Alan Gow!

Surely your time would be better spent talking to silverstone and resolving the situation, rather than taking shots at a Mr Gow, who's championship isn't even on the silverstone calender in 07.

AndyT · 21 Dec 2006, 22:25 (Ref:1797178)

Who is blaming Alan Gow?. Not me!.

Thanks for the positive comments about our meeting.

I just find it ironic that Silverstone removed the offer of 22nd April without a confirmed meeting in its place.

As for BTCC at Rockingham, I will be there, I can remember last time - its also closer.

Andy T

Claire · 22 Dec 2006, 08:14 (Ref:1797398)

Alan Gow has been asked about the date and Silverstone "holding it". Below is the question posed by a ten tenths member and his answer:

Having read through older posts in this forum (http://www.btcc.net/forum/showthread.php?t=2880) I have noticed that although you have said there is not a conflict of interest between your role as BTCC championship administrator and Chairman of the MSA, surely there is potential for a conflict to be seen?

The Peterborough Motor Club have had a race date at silverstone for the past 56 years. 2007's was to be the 22nd April, but they have lost this date due to Silverstone holding it open for your championship. Silverstone are STILL holding this date and so the Peterborough MC have lost their chance for a race meeting this year.

As a supporter of both club motorsport and the BTCC I find it disappointing that the Championship run by the Chairman of the MSA is trampling all over the smaller clubs, surely you should be setting a good example and working with clubs rather than against them?

Sorry, but I am at a total loss to understand your point;

The April 22nd BTCC event has been widely announced as being at Rockingham....so I fail to see where I/we have been "trampling all over the smaller clubs", as your event is at a totally different venue on that date (i.e Silverstone)!

If Silverstone still have not confirmed to you the April 22 date for your race meeting, then that's nothing whatsoever to do with myself or the BTCC - that's purely a matter between your club and Silverstone.

Just to put your mind at rest and to be absolutely clear on this - we certainly have not asked them to still 'hold' that date for the BTCC. Why they have advised your club that they continue to do so is a total mystery to me. I can only imagine it's an administrative error or suchlike.

Therefore, your remarks and assertions are completely unfounded and I respectfully suggest you take up your complaint with the circuit itself.

I'm sorry that the date has been taken away from you, maybe there is a chance you can get it back, from his answer the BTCC aren't going to be using it!

Andrew Kitson · 22 Dec 2006, 08:36 (Ref:1797418)

I am mystified at what is going on at Silverstone. The BRDC used to organise a full racing calendar, several great top notch meetings featuring on the same bill F3, the BTCC, UK FF, clubmans, historics etc, including some at 'away' circuits such as Donington.
They had a great loyal crowd of regular spectators. Now they have just a handful of meetings, the historic classic and Walter Hayes. Bizarre that their own FF Golden helmet meeting was sent to Kirkistown too. What is going on?

**Stephen Green** · 22 Dec 2006, 08:51 (Ref:1797423)

Can we please remember the golden rule "attack the post, not the poster". I appreciate that feelings are running high on this subject but lets not let that spill over into a word of wars here.

I thank you.....

chezza · 22 Dec 2006, 13:31 (Ref:1797673)

Well he was rather predictable, saying what I thought he would, he also wrongly assumes I'm invovled with PMC, which I'm not, but the BARC SEC saloon championship was going to run at the meeting and as a result we've had to juggle our dates.

I could make a reply back to him, but I'm not going to as he'll no doubt skirt round the points made in that one too and there's no chance of getting him to admit any responsibility no matter how tiny.

Suze · 22 Dec 2006, 13:52 (Ref:1797690)

But if BTCC are not at Silverstone on the said date why are Silverstone saying that, is that not something to bring up with Silverstone rather than Gow? If BTCC have been offered it and turned it down why are PMC unable to maintain their meeting?

I haven't seen any answers earlier in the thread to answer either question hence asking. If Silverstone still can't release the dates then I can understand why PMC cannot confirm as they don't have a confirmed venue.

It is a shame if professional motorsport is pushing out club motorsport (I have recently written an article looking at how both can work together - the professional driver in question may some very interesting comments!). PMC is "one of those meetings" that people often seem to talk about if you know what I mean and would have been a good one to go to in my opinion.

chezza · 22 Dec 2006, 14:18 (Ref:1797709)

I can only assume because silverstone are habouring some hope that Rockingham might be dropped, even though Gow and BTCC have said there isn't.

sydney herbert · 22 Dec 2006, 21:36 (Ref:1797964)

Andrew.
I think it called progress[ what ever that is].

A DISAPOINTED Member of a well known club. SYD.

Cornerworker · 23 Dec 2006, 19:41 (Ref:1798441)

Interestingly, the BRDC MC volunteering form has the Peterboro MC Race Meeting down for the 22nd September!!

AndyT · 23 Dec 2006, 20:15 (Ref:1798452)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cornerworker

Interestingly, the BRDC MC volunteering form has the Peterboro MC Race Meeting down for the 22nd September!!

Do they know something I don't. None of the races we had are available on the days offered, only the allcomers.

Perhaps they are offering the track free of charge

Andy T

thepits! · 24 Dec 2006, 20:16 (Ref:1798858)

Quote:

Originally Posted by AndyT

As for BTCC at Rockingham, I will be there...Andy T

Working for me!

barry johnson · 26 Dec 2006, 09:59 (Ref:1799308)

The meeting for Sept 22 is penciled in for the Peterborough MC to run with another club, once we have confirmed dates they will be published, so all may not be lost regarding this excellent club fixture.

AndyCox · 29 Dec 2006, 12:25 (Ref:1801138)

Bovver

, and Dave and I so like the little monsters you guys supply as the course car. Well, I hope something comes up this year but if not see you in 2008, how's that for early volunteering?

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