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14 Oct 2003, 18:52 (Ref:751231)
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A quick question about the Daytona Prototypes...
I was thinking about something today and never have heard an answer for it, so sorry if these are ignorant questions. They have to do with the cosmetic differences on the Daytona Prototypes.
I've heard it mentioned that you can use engines from different manufactures that are in the same "group," such as Nissan and Ifinity. Does that just basically mean that a team could run a Daytona Prototype with Nissan power and have Infinity styling on it? The second question I had has to do primarily with small sports car manufactures. The U.S.-spec Lotus Elise that's coming to America as a 2005 model will have a Toyota power plant. If a team was planning on running a car with Toyota power in the Daytona Prototype class, could they run it with Lotus Elise styling? |
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14 Oct 2003, 19:47 (Ref:751314)
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a: do you mean being able to use a 350z engine and badge it as an infiniti engine (which is how it is)?
b: yes, they could if they could get garra aproval. im not sure why youd want to take a i4 against v8s from ford, chevy, and toyota and the porsche flat 6 though. specially with turbos banned. Last edited by Es Nes; 14 Oct 2003 at 19:47. |
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14 Oct 2003, 19:53 (Ref:751320)
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2-2.1 The primary head and tail/brake light lenses must be identical to production units from the catalog of road going car parts published by the car’s engine manufacturer. Additional driving lights are permitted.
I would assume then if you wanted to have head and taillights from a toyota echo, more power to ya... As for the lotus thing, yeah I guess it would be ok, but you might as well put a camry engine in it and call it slower than molasses... |
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14 Oct 2003, 20:11 (Ref:751346)
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Oh, I wasn't referring to the engine. Doesn't the #3 Cegwa Toyota Fabcar run a Toyota V8 engine? That car has it's basic styling from the Toyota Celica, which only has a four cylinder engine. You don't have to run the engine on which the Daytona Prototype gets its styling from, right? I mean, you can run a car that has its styling from one car but has its engine from a different one under the same manufacture brand, right?
Thanks for the input, also. Last edited by DiscoGoober; 14 Oct 2003 at 20:17. |
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14 Oct 2003, 21:02 (Ref:751416)
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Do they still enforce that rule about the light? Because clearly Bell/Doran runs stuff that resembles nothing, so does the G&W Picchio....
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14 Oct 2003, 22:50 (Ref:751488)
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Forset say's his car use's Vette headlight's...
The Picchio is supposedly using Z3 headlight's. |
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14 Oct 2003, 23:13 (Ref:751512)
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well since the corvette has pop up headlights then the bell doran/chevy can run those fixed lights he has on now and the tail lights are from a vette, but as for a pichio, those don't look like Z3 lights to me same with it's tail lights, i don't see any BMW's with tail ights like those, i wonder why they aren't running BMW lights
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14 Oct 2003, 23:56 (Ref:751552)
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They don't look like Z3 to me either. Sound's like the Picchio might not be seen next year anyway's...
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15 Oct 2003, 12:45 (Ref:752099)
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Not sure how that sits with '2-2.1 The primary head and tail/brake light lenses must be identical to production units from the catalog of road going car parts published by the car’s engine manufacturer. Additional driving lights are permitted' - would the Toyota engine in the production Elise actually have to be Lotus-badged before you could use the Toyota-Lotus link in this way?- otherwise, if you go strictly to the letter of ' regulation 2-2-.1', then presumably would you still have to use the Toyota lights etc?- or to put it another way, do you actually have to use an engine ACTUALLY BUILT by Lotus- ie the Esprit's V8- to have a Lotus-styled DP? Knowing Lotus, the lights etc on the Elise probably started off in another manufacturer's parts catalogue anyway..... |
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15 Oct 2003, 13:07 (Ref:752122)
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15 Oct 2003, 21:29 (Ref:752694)
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What about the focus DP? Those lights sure ain't from anything I've seen...
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15 Oct 2003, 21:39 (Ref:752699)
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Drawing of the car: http://www.grand-am.com/daytona_prot...207-16_300.jpg |
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16 Oct 2003, 00:00 (Ref:752778)
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the Ford DP's use focus light turned at a different orientation like 180 different.
Nissan is only approved to use the V6 from the 350, but they could get a Nissan V8 approved and run 350z headlamps and rears, or even sentra light and rear... i am waiting for a good nissan program for DP's, if it look good it would totally swing me that way. |
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16 Oct 2003, 01:45 (Ref:752825)
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They are in fact factory Focus lights (tail, too). The headlights are swapped and rotated 90 degrees.
The tail lights are hidden in the frame at the back. They also have an LED racing brake light, centre-mounted. |
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16 Oct 2003, 03:01 (Ref:752848)
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yeah at first i didn't recognize the headlamps on the focus DP but after a while i did. i'm waiting for a team to submit plans to run the new chrysler Hemi V8 and they could run the headlight tailight package from the Viper
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