What are you racing in 2007 ?

[Notso Swift]

Originally Posted by Peter Mallett

Sounds like a great championship.

Your above points reflect the FIA Touring Cars regs. First the RX7 was homologated by Mazda as a touring car in the US. It is alleged that TWR (yes him) took a car and removed the padding from the rear "seats" thus allowing a passenger to sit behind the driver. TWR then dominated the BTCC for a couple of years with its RX7s one of which was driven by Win Percy and the other was driven by John Morrison who posts on here

That is quite funny be cause a similar version of the story is used with regards to Alan Moffart pushing though homologation with CAMS. The measurements are soooo close for a 12A car and if the FIA equivilence factor was talen into account (which use to be 2.0) there would be no way they could race, but once you're in you stay in.

It is a great championship, there is just enough that can be done to keep the engineers happy, and the tyres provide a reasonably level plaing field. We have cars that date from the mid sixties (usually with modern running gear) all the way to Group N Production cars, a couple of years old. Indeed a lot of Prodies, when they are retired, are stripped out, modified further and become IP cars. We also have guys in cars that cost $5000, and some who have spent well over $100,000... more like $150000... yet the field is uasally within less than 15%. The best car driven by a plonker will still not win

[Jennifer_ni]

I hope to make my first few apperances in irish formula vee!

[Jamie G]

Originally Posted by Chris Y

I'm hoping to do a few CSCC TinTops rounds with a Honda CRX. Other than that I'll be in the MGOC again, and possibly a 2CV, depending on the usual moolah situation.

An ex-CRX Challenge/ Super Coupe CRX? Please let me know where you'll be as I'd like to race with you in mine...

Originally Posted by Mad Dog

I will be running my spaceframed Metro in class A of the DTRC and doing a full season.Due to the fact that the engine is now over 20 years old and does not like running on the big circuits Lee is putting a 300bhp Duratec in it so I hope to be able to give Rod a run for his money.Should be a laugh will the front wheel drive.My doctor said I should slow down but I want to go faster.

You entering Class E as well? Tintops? Semsec? (just wondering how much of your behind I'll be seeing )

As for my CRX, I'm doing DTRC, Tintops, maybe Pre-93 and maybe Semsec Sports and Saloons. Oh, and dad will be doing the All Circuit Sprint Championship... Good job it's a Honda!

[Al Weyman]

Originally Posted by Al Weyman

I will be running hopefully both my Camaros, depends how much the engine on my black later model will cost to fix and how much spare cash I have but I would like to have a go in Pre-93's (committee willing) with it as I think it may hold its own there unlike Classic Thunder and DTRC where its a bit over whelmed.

Alternately I will concerntrate on the old car and race it in Pre-74 and Group 1 as it seems to reasonably competitive there now and I just like driving it and they are a nice bunch of people to race with. :-).

Unfortunately the Committee were not willing so thats knocked that on the head :-(

[Tim Wilkinson]

How come you can't race it in pre-93, Al? Is it the weight-limit problem?

[Al Weyman]

No that was or is to be resolved.

I wanted to run an after market suspension torque arm as sanctioned by the Sports Car Club of America (SCCA) for club racing (in fact may be mandatory) on these and late model Mustangs in the US as the standard one bolts to the gearbox and snaps off the tailhousing and also induces outragious wheel hop under heavy breaking both of which are very dangerous and unreliable. But the commitee desided it was 'Outside the spirit of the regulations' which I must admit I was somewhat surprised as exceptions to certain models have been sanctioned. May have done me a favour as it happens because IMHO the must have car in Pre-93 is now going to be the M3 and my budget efforts will never stay with a 40k supercar.

[Tim Wilkinson]

I think we all knew that the M3 would be the car to have already, Al. There was nothing to stay with it in period, except the Cossies and Skylines which are banned. Although if the Tomcats are in the same class it could be a bit close.
That's for overall wins, tho - how often does a class winner take the honours for the season?

Fit it anyway, and don't tell anyone :whistle

[Al Weyman]

Its already been fitted a while ago now and it would be in the same class as the M3 I believe but not certain also its easy to recognise and I would rather be uo front about it but I will not be going back to the original as its a nightmare.

[johnw]

Just in case anyone is confused, it's the E36 3.0 M3 that is being mentioned here. I'd have thought a good Camaro should give one a run.
I'll have a chat to you about it Al. Mustn't give up at the first hurdle

[Tim Wilkinson]

Are the E30 and E36 M3s in different classes? I think both will be hard to beat, whether I'm confused or not (which I am). I'm surprised the E36 is pre-93, I thought it was much newer than that. Or I'm much older than I thought......

[Al Weyman]

According to Wikpedia the E36 debuted in 1992 with the 3.0 engine.

I will say John thought my case for me and thanks for that but to be honest I don't want to make waves and anyhow I thoroughly enjoyed my last outing at Donington on the Pre 74's and Group 1 with the old yellow tub and may just concentrate on that more as it really has a bit of a mild engine in at the moment but was still reasonably on the pace after the last mods I did on the brakes and final drive and with another 100bhp or so who knows. :-)

[Chris Y]

Originally Posted by Jamie G

An ex-CRX Challenge/ Super Coupe CRX? Please let me know where you'll be as I'd like to race with you in mine...

We'll be racing it in the ClassicSportsCarClub TinTops (Not DTRC TinTops, or whatever it's going to be).

Can't speak for its pedigree, because to be honest I haven't seen it But It's the ex-Livens/Dyball CRX that won class B of CSCC TinTops this year.


I think it was a Super Coupe, but don't quote me on that because I really am not sure!

You entering Class E as well? Tintops? Semsec? (just wondering how much of your behind I'll be seeing )

It's unlikely we'll be doing Semsec or DTRC as I'm based up North and the car owner lives in Bedfordshire. We'll probably only be doing selected rounds anyway, since neither of us have the money to do a full season due to other commitments.

..Unless of course we start winning stuff, then our opinions may change somewhat

[Al Weyman]

Ah so there are two TinTops, thats a bit confusing isn't it, I see the CSSC has a two litre limit what is the other one?

[Rod Birley]

BARC south east are looking at a feeder catergory for DT&R and have run three "trial" races so far to gauge interest. The idea is much the same as CSCC tin tops, although it is not going to have pit stops/driver changes. Hopefully the regs will be similar, but we are not trying to pinch drivers, only offer something to people moving up from sprinting. CSCC go to venues all over the country as well. However, we may be on at some of their meetings next year but it is not confirmed yet.

[Al Weyman]

Maybe a more original name to save confusion Rod?

[graham bahr]

i'll be back out in dtrc, assuming i can find some money and get the time off work

[graham bahr]

Originally Posted by Chris Y

..Unless of course we start winning stuff, then our opinions may change somewhat

been there myself, was just going to do a couple of events, on the basis i didnt have any money, until i won a pot it my first meeting, 7 full seasons later....................

[Flat Out Farr]

I will be back in the Mk3 Fiesta, now rebuilt(again); probably end up doing some tin-top races(BARC-SE) as it seems more and more difficult to get entries in DTRC due to the high number of registered drivers wanting to race; (good for the series, as it is so popular). May do Oval racing as it appears less damage will be caused to the car (lol);

Concentrating on new job and planning my exit from the UK, in the not to distant future, with a bit of luck, so racing will take a bit of a back seat.

[RushyRacer]

Originally Posted by Al Weyman

Maybe a more original name to save confusion Rod?

Plus as Rod says we ( CSCC) are racing TinTops at most major UK circuits plus Daytona Beach, Florida if you are interested in a special " one off" race which includes a 7 day holiday and 5 races !

[Al Weyman]

How on earth are you gonna get the cars to Daytona?

[R59]

Ever heard of cargo ships?
Unless you know someone who can lend you a car ferry with a big fuel tank...

You reckon the "John Henry Newman" would be missed if they borrowed it?

Rob.

[Al Weyman]

Well when I did a bit of importing and exporting to an from the US in the 70's I think they charged around £600 one way, God knows what it would be now with a tow car and trailer, they wanted about £300 to go to Jerby IoM a few years ago.

[terence]

One container is approx 1200 pounds ,one way,I think.

[Al Weyman]

Sounds like an expensive week! Stange enterprise for a budget series.

[RushyRacer]

Originally Posted by Al Weyman

Sounds like an expensive week! Stange enterprise for a budget series.

That sounds like a bit of a negative comment !! Your car would fit in with some of the Yanks and the cost of £3600 includes shipping you car out there, transport of the car to the circuit together with any spares package you want to send with, flights and accomodation ( 6 nights) for 2 people testing and the races. So far 100 people have signed up expressing an interest and if you want further info check out the web site or visit our stand at the Autosports show or Stoneleigh