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13 Jul 2001, 08:21 (Ref:116477)
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I think TOCA tried their very hardest...I'm sure they wouldn't have sat there twidling their thumbs, but the end of Super Touring world wide hit them hard.
Consult the manufacturers re: Future Tourers? Remember these things are basically the second coming of Auscars...and they came into life still while Audi and Volvo were involved with the class. |
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13 Jul 2001, 14:19 (Ref:116606)
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When the Future Tourers came into being in 99 when Volvo and Audi were still racing they weren't meant to replace Super Tourers, they were meant to be lower than ST and be a stepping stone to V8 Supercars. Back in 99 there was no consideration to other manufacturers, it was only meant to be Ford vs Holden.
If the new ETC regulations aren't introduced, how are Australian Touring car drivers meant to get drives in the ETC or BTCC. |
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14 Jul 2001, 02:49 (Ref:116846)
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14 Jul 2001, 05:01 (Ref:116867)
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Im still adamant that the Australian teams wouldn't be interested in running ETC rules...and besides, how many Australians want to run in the ETC or BTCC anyways??
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14 Jul 2001, 07:38 (Ref:116890)
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Allan Grice and the Mobil HDT raced in the ETC in 86 and were planning assaults on the 87 WTC until budget problems, and Moffat and Harvey raced in the WTC and won the first round at Monza in a Commodore, and Grice, Brock, Parsons and Bob Holden also competed at Spa that year, and Grice raced in the ETC for Nissan in 88, and Johnson and Bowe flogged the Euros at Silverstone later that year. And Steven Richards gave up a year of V8s to test for Nissan in the BTCC, and both Ingall and Murphy tried to get drives in the 99 BTCC, Murphy even tested the Laguna, and Morris had signed a deal to be Matt Neals teamate in the BTCC in 99. And worldwide the ETC is more important than a little domestic series on the other side of the world.
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14 Jul 2001, 10:47 (Ref:116939)
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That is all true, but have a look at the BTCC now...it's only a shaddow of its former self. I'd imagine that young Aussies would be interested in the DTM, but that is something all together different..
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16 Jul 2001, 02:58 (Ref:117518)
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Crash Test why do you not like the new ETC rules, this could be the best thinto happen to aussie motorsport since super tourers being introduced in 94. I believe the cars can be manufactered in Aus with low costs , you couldn't do that with a ST and look how good that was, so this hould be awesome. Also Cochrane, this is really gonna get him angry, he'll be saying "I'm going to sew them, how dare they introduce a new category in this country", I'm referring to what he sadi when the Bathurst/Future Tourers thing was announced, he said that he would check with his lawyers whether another V8 Category would be allowed, really Australian Motorsport doesn't need him.
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16 Jul 2001, 04:52 (Ref:117547)
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spot on about ETC rules and Tony C. The Future Tourers to me seem a bit like the BTC Tourers, with control parts, only they are V8 RWD instead of 4 cylinder FWD. I think the Super 2000 regs will be better than ST because there is a pan european series, so manufacturers don't have to worry about whether certain rules will continue in certain countries each year.
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16 Jul 2001, 05:39 (Ref:117564)
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TOCa Tourers would be an ideal category to replace to outdone v8 supercars , because they are V8's but accomadate so many different vehicles. They don't touch the current Super Touring rules. Racer 69 has a good understanding of motorsport(give us an email and we can talk some more about tafe times to super touring)
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16 Jul 2001, 12:17 (Ref:117721)
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Have to say the only thing better than the Super Touring rules are the Super 2000 regulations.
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17 Jul 2001, 11:23 (Ref:118238)
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To be honest, I really don't care too much either way about the ETC rules, but being a realist, the class wouldn't have a place in Australian Motorsport. We already have Procar, which today, is miles ahead of TOCA.
TOCA is commited to Future Touers, because they now know that small cars don't appeal to the greater public. In a perfect world, everyone would love small cars, all of the manufacturers would get involved, and they would have 80 car grids. Sadly, here today, none of that would happen. Now that should keep the discussion going 
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