uk f1 tv coverage - sky, bbc and ch4

[Sodemo]

Is there any word on viewing figures from the Oz race for Sky and Ch4?

[gary396]

Originally Posted by Sodemo

Is there any word on viewing figures from the Oz race for Sky and Ch4?

On Croft's twitter feed he says Sky's our race day coverage reached 2.1 million (and he says 3.5mil across Sky & Ch4). Quite high but I think they had it showing on Sky One as well so maybe boosted that way?

Also, depends how you interpret the wording 'race day coverage' - he doesn't explicitly say 'the live race' coverage was 2.1 million.

[ScotsBrutesFan]

Because Sky isn't universally available across all platforms in the way that CH4 is, actual viewer numbers don't make a lot of sense.

2.1 million out of over 10 million SkyTV subscribed households (available to all SkyTV Subscribers through Sky 1). I don't know what access Sky have to viewership figures for other platforms other than NowTV, so those may be in addition or inclusive.

CH4 is available across all platforms to every house in the UK, from 2017 UK government figures so add a few more on since then.

In the UK there were 27.2 million households in 2017

Sky would likely be looking at what percentage of those that watched via Sky 1 would be upgrading to Sky Sports to continue watching across the season.

[chillibowl]

found this site...seems like a very good break down of the numbers and discusses those other platforms.

https://motorsportbroadcasting.com/2...-tv-platforms/

One of the drivers behind the increase was Sky One, which on its own added over half a million viewers. The first three races are airing live on Sky One, but what happens to those viewers when that disappears?

If Sky One’s viewers migrate over to the F1 channel to follow the sport, then that is great news for Sky. Similarly, the opposite is true if Sky One’s audience returns back to Channel 4’s highlights package from Baku onwards.

and this part on Croft's tweet

Update on March 18th at 20:10 – Not long after I posted this, Sky’s F1 lead commentator David Croft posted on Twitter that Sky’s coverage reached 2.1 milllion viewers, and combined Sky and Channel 4 reached 3.5 million viewers. For those unaware, that is the amount of viewers that watched three consecutive minutes of coverage.

3 consecutive minutes is a pretty low threshold lol.

[bjohnsonsmith]

Originally Posted by chillibowl

found this site...seems like a very good break down of the numbers and discusses those other platforms.

https://motorsportbroadcasting.com/2...-tv-platforms/

One of the drivers behind the increase was Sky One, which on its own added over half a million viewers. The first three races are airing live on Sky One, but what happens to those viewers when that disappears?

If Sky One’s viewers migrate over to the F1 channel to follow the sport, then that is great news for Sky. Similarly, the opposite is true if Sky One’s audience returns back to Channel 4’s highlights package from Baku onwards.

and this part on Croft's tweet

Update on March 18th at 20:10 – Not long after I posted this, Sky’s F1 lead commentator David Croft posted on Twitter that Sky’s coverage reached 2.1 milllion viewers, and combined Sky and Channel 4 reached 3.5 million viewers. For those unaware, that is the amount of viewers that watched three consecutive minutes of coverage.

3 consecutive minutes is a pretty low threshold lol.

Doesn't Sky F1 cost extra, even if one is a Sky One customer?

[S griffin]

Sky F1 is just a bonus channel. Sky 1 is a package channel

[ScotsBrutesFan]

Originally Posted by bjohnsonsmith

Doesn't Sky F1 cost extra, even if one is a Sky One customer?

Originally Posted by S griffin

Sky F1 is just a bonus channel. Sky 1 is a package channel

Sky One is Sky's primary entertainment channel, it's included in the standard package of channels which I think Sky call their Entertainment package.

SkySports F1 is one of 9 or 10 sports channels that is referred to as a Premium service that can be added either individually or as part of a larger sports package

[bjohnsonsmith]

I just went to Sky's website and they have a TV & Sports deal for £35pm for 18 months, which includes Sky F1 but this deal ends on the 24th of March. However, if you already have Sky Entertainment, at £22pm for 18 months, you can get Sky F1 for an extra £10pm. Then there is the TV license.

[S griffin]

Well that’s good, but I guess the F1 channel had to be an add on. They need to make it worth it

[S griffin]

Seriously they should show F1 on other Sky channels too, would help increase viewers

[ScotsBrutesFan]

Originally Posted by S griffin

Seriously they should show F1 on other Sky channels too, would help increase viewers

Sky aren't interested in "viewers" they are interested in Subscribers and getting them to pay more for the best of Sky's content. That means Premium channels: Sports and Cinema.

At least these days the old argument of having to have the football to get F1 isn't there as you can subscribe to just one sports channel...and it doesn't have to be a football one.

[Mike Harte]

Originally Posted by ScotsBrutesFan

At least these days the old argument of having to have the football to get F1 isn't there as you can subscribe to just one sports channel...and it doesn't have to be a football one.

That only seems to apply to Sky subscribers with at least their basic bundle, and I think that the offer ends shortly, although I'm not positive on that.

I'm a Virgin Media customer, and having just looked at what is on offer through them, it appears that the F1 channel can only be had by purchasing the full Sky sports package at about £35 per month, minimum 18 months.

Well, as I haven't watched any F1 for at least 5 years now, I guess that I won't miss watching it in the future. Well done, Mr E and the spineless, greedy and grasping team principles.

[S griffin]

Yeah, it makes sense for Sky to other this to subscribers. I think ot could be better though

I think F1 is still a great series, but we let that senile Bernie make too many decisions. Obviously the teams decided not to get involved

[Alan52]

Going forward where Liberty have made tv deals they haven’t been rushing back to fta tv.The streaming service is $A300/year which is more than for any other sport I’ve seen.As a point of comparison here in Australia we get all of EPL plus all of Champions League for $A180/year.Moto GP is $A220/year and Kayo which has nearly all sport held in Australia plus F1,Moto GP,all professional golf tours and all international cricket worldwide is $A300/year.
The terminal decline in the fta tv business means that people will have to pay directly for nearly all premium sport.Finding the price point that will produce the best return is the trick.

[S griffin]

Well this is different. Sounds like you have good value for money TV wise down under, with MotoGP, golf, F1 and the like. Good investment there

[Alan52]

Originally Posted by S griffin

Well this is different. Sounds like you have good value for money TV wise down under, with MotoGP, golf, F1 and the like. Good investment there

The Kayo streaming service is a new offshoot of Murdoch’s Australian Pay tv network Foxtel.To get the same program offering on that platform is $A700/year.They have never got pay tv penetration much above 30% of households here.The main reason for that is that there is government anti siphoning legislation that prevents the main local football codes-AFL and Rugby League-and things like test cricket played in Australia being shown exclusively on pay tv.
Kayo is an attempt to find a price point that will draw in a lot of people and hopefully not lose too many subscribers switching from Foxtel to Kayo.It only started up 4 months ago.

[Oldtony]

Speaking of Murdoch the new Fox has listed in the US.
It is the Murdoch Family vehicle for the Fox assets remaining after the sell off to Disney of the Movie and Entertainment assets.
Holds Fox News, Fox Cable, the sports assets and Newscorp. A real concentration of media and political power.

While it is listed and trades as a Public company the voting shares are held by the Murdochs.
As well as Rupert and Lachlan and othe family members the board features the former House Speaker Ryan and (of interest here ) Chase Carey.

[S griffin]

Well it’s still Fox under a different ownership. Disney now will have more say of it. Murdoch is probably coming to the end of his time and that it is time to move, hence selling most of his stake. That’s how it works

Of course the board could stay, don’t know where Rupert would go and Chase Carey, will he stay now he’s in F1?

[crmalcolm]

Originally Posted by S griffin

Well it’s still Fox under a different ownership. Disney now will have more say of it.

It has nothing to do with Disney. So no influence from that quarter.

The Company also announced the appointment of Ms. Anne Dias and Messrs. Chase Carey, Roland A. Hernandez, and Paul D. Ryan to its Board of Directors, alongside previously announced members K. Rupert Murdoch, Lachlan K. Murdoch and Jacques Nasser. Lachlan K. Murdoch, FOX Chairman and CEO, commented: “We are thrilled to welcome our new colleagues to the FOX board. We look forward to working with and being guided by them as we begin a new chapter, steadfastly committed to providing the best in news, sports and entertainment programming.

https://www.foxcorporation.com/news/corp-press-releases/2019/fox-corporation-announces-first-day-as-standalone/

[S griffin]

That’s good, just a sideline for them. Still expanding their business, plenty of additions to the board. Now they have an F1 person on there, plus some family members thanks to Rupert. They need it to keep going. No surprise they are excited, they need more people on the board

[S griffin]

Well they need to do this, they need to make money. They need more people to help make the right decisions. Hence why they have chosen the people they have. The Murdochs will still be involved though. Dunno how long Rupert has got left though. They will continue without him though if they need to, they always will

[ScotsBrutesFan]

Well Ted's new show aired on Sky this evening.... It was an FOM production not a Sky show so might appear on the FOM website or youtube channel at some point.

Him and Rob Smedley in the FOM base at Biggin Hill. It was clunky Not sure whether it was the editing (not a live show) or what and certainly Smedley is no natural on camera.

I feel it tried to cover too much ground for that format in just a 30 minute TV slot (with no as break). Could easily have been an hour long show. At least for the first one.

Ted seemed to suggest that he was in Barcelona during testing but wan't clear whether the first or second week, or who he was working with at the time.

He should be in Bahrain so it will be interesting to see whether he's doing both Sky and FOM whilst on-site in the same way as Herbert and Brookes/Pinkham do with the driver parade.

[S griffin]

What Sky channel was it on? Not sure if it would have been any good. He had Smedley but that was it. Not sure how much testing attendance he did. Certainly it would been better than nothing if he went there

Not sure they need him for Bahrain. They have their own team now and Herbet is still as good as ever

[ScotsBrutesFan]

In response to a series of disjointed sentences...

Originally Posted by S griffin

What Sky channel was it on?

It was on Sky Sports F1 several times yesterday... first showing was 6pm

Not sure if it would have been any good.

That would be a reason for watching it before commenting on it.

He had Smedley but that was it.

Sorry was that a question or just restating what I had posted?

Not sure how much testing attendance he did.

As he wasn't on screen as part of the Sky/FOM crew for Test 1, and there was much speculation here and elsewhere, my comment was simply to report that Ted's comments suggested that he was there at some point..

Certainly it would been better than nothing if he went there

Doesn't make sense...he would have to have had some capacity to be there for a media outlet whether FOM, Sky or AnOtherTV

Not sure they need him for Bahrain.

I assume you mean Sky but given this programme was an FOM production and not Sky please clarify.

They have their own team now and Herbert is still as good as ever

Again are you meaning Herbert doing FOM interviews, or his punditry on Sky? Ted's role on Sky has never been in punditry, he's a reporter presenter.


Oh and there is now a tweet from Rachel Brookes which suggests that it'll be China that Ted makes an appearance but again not clear whether Sky or FOM or Both.

[crmalcolm]

Originally Posted by S griffin

That’s good, just a sideline for them.

What is a sideline for who?

Originally Posted by S griffin

Still expanding their business,

This is the new company after selling of some of their business, not expanding.

Originally Posted by S griffin

Now they have an F1 person on there, plus some family members thanks to Rupert.

Fox have always had family members on the board, this is no different. Chase Carey is a media guy first who has moved into F1, not an F1 guy moving into media.

Originally Posted by S griffin

They need it to keep going. No surprise they are excited, they need more people on the board

Why do you think the board needs to grow further?