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Old 21 Apr 2005, 18:24 (Ref:1284003)   #1
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Lant RT2 tracing history of car

I have a Lant or it could be a Ralt RT2 which i hillclimb ,sprint and race in Ireland. From what i know it originated in South Africa manufactured y Mel Lahner of Lant Cars. It has the large fuel cell which appears to be original ,not modified afterwards. It is wide track 62" and has conventional rocker beam suspension at the front with vertical inboard Koni's. It last came from the England where it had been fitted with a BDG. Prior to that it is supposed to have been in the far east where it was raced by an Indian Prince. It may have had a Mazda Rotary engine fitted but not sure. All the suspension uprights are original Ralt mag castings The car has an identity stamp on the top left of the front alloy bulkhead with RR 8304 stamped on it. Someone removed some stamped letters or numbers located before the RR with a rotary burr. Anyone out there have any ideas or comments as to where this car has been since the 80's
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Old 21 Apr 2005, 20:52 (Ref:1284129)   #2
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Have you read the Ralt RT2 thread?

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Old 21 Apr 2005, 22:02 (Ref:1284177)   #3
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Have you read the Ralt RT2 thread?

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Yes read thread, Lant cars seem to be info thin nobody seems to know much about them

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Old 21 Apr 2005, 22:16 (Ref:1284189)   #4
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I have a Lant or it could be a Ralt RT2 which i hillclimb ,sprint and race in Ireland. From what i know it originated in South Africa manufactured y Mel Lahner of Lant Cars. It has the large fuel cell which appears to be original ,not modified afterwards. It is wide track 62" and has conventional rocker beam suspension at the front with vertical inboard Koni's. It last came from the England where it had been fitted with a BDG. Prior to that it is supposed to have been in the far east where it was raced by an Indian Prince. It may have had a Mazda Rotary engine fitted but not sure. All the suspension uprights are original Ralt mag castings The car has an identity stamp on the top left of the front alloy bulkhead with RR 8304 stamped on it. Someone removed some stamped letters or numbers located before the RR with a rotary burr. Anyone out there have any ideas or comments as to where this car has been since the 80's
Isn't this the car John Payne used to sprint?
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Old 22 Apr 2005, 14:08 (Ref:1284590)   #5
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The first Lant made its debut at Killarney, 8,5,82 driven by Trevor van Rooyen who used it for the rest of the 82 season. A second car was completed towards the end of the season and raced by Roy Klomfass at Kyalami 4.9.82.

There may be significantly more Ralt in the first car than the second:
Lahner bought an RT4 new from Ralt 16.10.81 and may have used this as the basis of the first car. [The RT4 that van Rooyen races in 1981 before the Lant appears is said to be an ex Tilanus car, so might be RT2 [154] rather than this car [RT4 -272]

The Ralt sales records obtained by Adam Ferrington have tub, gearbox and fuel cell numbers so we might be able to get some kind of handle on this.

Ian Hebblewhite would be a good person to talk to about the car's history.

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Old 25 Apr 2005, 12:18 (Ref:1286845)   #6
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Peter,
As far as I know only one Lant was exported from SA after F2 finished here in 1986.
Can we start with the number on the FT200 case please, either the usual stamped Hewland number or an engraved Lant 00.. number just inboard of the sideplate ?.
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Old 25 Apr 2005, 16:47 (Ref:1287082)   #7
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Lant / Ralt gearbox and fuel cell info

Gearbox casing number is FT.200.1611. The original fuel cell was replaced 3 years ago but have hung onto the original its identity is as follows:-

MARSTON Wolverhampton England
Contractors Part No E4 55 0110
Me part No RT 614 Issue A
Serial No JN 39 254
Issue Stamp Jm 20
Date of Cure 3Q/82
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Old 25 Apr 2005, 16:50 (Ref:1287089)   #8
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I do believe it was sprinted in the UK but by whom ,i have no idea. Some folks in ireland have said to me that it was a known car when in the uk
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Old 25 Apr 2005, 16:57 (Ref:1287099)   #9
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Separate topic but related,, a friend of mine hillclimbs an RT1 chassis no RT1-2. It was converted years ago to accomodate a Rover V8 mated to a FG gearbox. This car was owned a few years ago by Richard Young who campaigned it for years in ireland where he won the championship a number of times, Richard sold it on to John Leinster in northern ireland and sold it on to John McNamara the current owner. I guess this car has substantial history. I would post pics if i knew how.
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Separate topic but related,, a friend of mine hillclimbs an RT1 chassis no RT1-2. It was converted years ago to accomodate a Rover V8 mated to a FG gearbox. This car was owned a few years ago by Richard Young who campaigned it for years in ireland where he won the championship a number of times, Richard sold it on to John Leinster in northern ireland and sold it on to John McNamara the current owner. I guess this car has substantial history. I would post pics if i knew how.
Peter, this is the fabled Coogar-Ralt that Mike MacDowel had built. It originally had a Hart engine but was then changed over to a Rover unit.
Richard campaigned it for many years as did John Leinster.

I have seen all of these drivers in the car over the years. It is a famous hillclimb car and if you suggest to the current owner that it might get a run at the Centenary Shelsley and he is up for it, I suggest he gets in touch with the MAC as quickly as possible.

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Old 25 Apr 2005, 18:34 (Ref:1287202)   #11
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Ralt Coogar

I'll pass message onto John. I'm not sure whether he is going or not. I am but not sure whether to bring Lant or GP4 escort , cant make up my mind , Ill let u know what he is doing. Incidentally it came 3 O/A on the Galway Ballyalban Hillclimb at the weekend, but John being a little older now probably knows how fast he doesnt want to go. Just an engine rebuild.
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As far as I know only one Lant was exported from SA after F2 finished here in 1986.
Can we start with the number on the FT200 case please, either the usual stamped Hewland number or an engraved Lant 00.. number just inboard of the sideplate ?.
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What are the definitive differences between an Ralt / Lant RT4 and an Atlantic chassis.
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What are the definitive differences between an Ralt / Lant RT4 and an Atlantic chassis.
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I Have posted gearbox numbers and fuel cell numbers above

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Old 26 Apr 2005, 12:42 (Ref:1287845)   #14
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Brousing through the website http://www.britishsprint.org/history...ve/1994res.htm i notice that both in 1994 and 1996 John Payne campaigned a 1.5 Lant-Ford BDA RT4 and in 2.0 Lt form in 1996. This probably is the same car. When brought into ireland by Cyril Orme-Lynch it had a 2.0Lt BDG, replaced by a Ford 205 metal block Warrior Headed engine. most likely same car. The fuel cell numbers dating the cell as 3rd quarter 1982 would seem to suggest that the Chassis designation RR 8304 may be legitimate. ?
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Brousing through the website http://www.britishsprint.org/history...ve/1994res.htm i notice that both in 1994 and 1996 John Payne campaigned a 1.5 Lant-Ford BDA RT4 and in 2.0 Lt form in 1996. This probably is the same car. When brought into ireland by Cyril Orme-Lynch it had a 2.0Lt BDG, replaced by a Ford 205 metal block Warrior Headed engine. most likely same car. The fuel cell numbers dating the cell as 3rd quarter 1982 would seem to suggest that the Chassis designation RR 8304 may be legitimate. ?
Peter, the car John Payne campaigned with 1.5 & 2.0 litre egines IS the car sold to Cyril Orme-Lynch.
We are just waiting for the chassis number to be confirmed before we add it to the database.
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