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Old 17 Nov 2009, 10:29 (Ref:2583423)   #1
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Engine checks

Out of interest, were any FF1600 Kent engines subjected to eligibility checks this year?

I ask because having competed previously in 750MC Formula Vee we became used to having to dismantle the engine in parc ferme at least once a year, with the winner's engine often the subject of intense scrutiny.

I was always in favour of this, even though it irritated at the time when you just want to head home, just because it put everyone's mind to rest.

I didn't see any checks this year and wondered if perhaps I'd missed something.
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Old 17 Nov 2009, 18:57 (Ref:2583664)   #2
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Quite a few engines were sealed this year. One of our engines were sealed along with 3 others from the north west (that I am aware of) and I know two Irish engines, unusually but clearly stated in the ford tech regs, with the bellhousing sealed to the engine.

Scruty checks on the friday evening at the WHT and (from what I heared, not saw) there were carburetter's being taken apart.

Starter motor and reverse gear checks were also done on the sunday morning. I think it is good that this type of checks were done, the ones who are racing to the book have nothing to hide.

I didn't hear much being done at the Festival however.
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Old 17 Nov 2009, 21:24 (Ref:2583756)   #3
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I was at the checks after the WHT and the carbs were removed and inlet maniflod internals checked. Thickness of the black rubbery gasket also checked.
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Old 17 Nov 2009, 23:44 (Ref:2583863)   #4
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I didn't hear much being done at the Festival however.[/QUOTE]

First 3 at the festival final were all sealed and at the bellhousing, hence the results still being provisional, Scott Malverns and Nevile Smyths are both on their way to Bold for inspection, assume that Rorys is on its way to Scholar, BRSCC should know the outcome soon.
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What is the significance of a reverse gear check?

Is it just to make sure you have one fitted for drag?
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Old 18 Nov 2009, 08:37 (Ref:2583990)   #6
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What is the significance of a reverse gear check?

Is it just to make sure you have one fitted for drag?
& to make sure you only have 4 forward gears!
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What is the significance of a reverse gear check?

Is it just to make sure you have one fitted for drag?
I think you simply have to prove that you have an operative reverse gear. I have a JP box with the manual (cable pull) reverse gear modification and have had to prove that it works many many times. Infact - thats the only time I ever use it!
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Old 18 Nov 2009, 11:51 (Ref:2584093)   #9
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Thanks. That answers my question.

As I suspected, I missed it.....
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I think you simply have to prove that you have an operative reverse gear. I have a JP box with the manual (cable pull) reverse gear modification and have had to prove that it works many many times. Infact - thats the only time I ever use it!
That's the only time you want to try and use it
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Cliff Dempsey Racing looses 2nd at Formula Ford Festival over technical infringement

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This press release can be viewed on the BRSCC home page www.brscc.co.uk
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Old 27 Nov 2009, 20:09 (Ref:2590370)   #13
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Not sure I believe the bit about the engine not been used during the season for the national championship. From what I here and seen had alot of trouble with missed gears during testing which leads to engine changes. I think it is good karma he got caught cheating. Both him and team deserve it for stealing national championship from Rory Butcher. I was at race that weekend and it was crazy the decision made by motorsport Ireland. Scott had Rory pushed tight to grass and interlocked wheels with only two choices brake and let scott drive over his front wheel or hold station and take corner. Scott had all the room and new he had no chance to pass on outside as it always ends in contact at that corner. Have watched racing for years and it is always the same at the second corner in mondello and Scott knew this as he had raced here before. Also would like to point out that mechanical failure cost scott the championship he failed to finish race when car broke down.
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Not sure I believe the bit about the engine not been used during the season for the national championship. From what I here and seen had alot of trouble with missed gears during testing which leads to engine changes. I think it is good karma he got caught cheating. Both him and team deserve it for stealing national championship from Rory Butcher. I was at race that weekend and it was crazy the decision made by motorsport Ireland. Scott had Rory pushed tight to grass and interlocked wheels with only two choices brake and let scott drive over his front wheel or hold station and take corner. Scott had all the room and new he had no chance to pass on outside as it always ends in contact at that corner. Have watched racing for years and it is always the same at the second corner in mondello and Scott knew this as he had raced here before. Also would like to point out that mechanical failure cost scott the championship he failed to finish race when car broke down.
The decision made by Motorsport Ireland was made on very clear CCTV evidence from Mondello's own cameras which clearly shows that it aws Rory that all the room not Scott. It also clearly shows that Scott was leading. Thats why Rory was excluded by the COC....and he had committed an almost identical offence at the previous round at Brands for which he was endorsed, fined and reprimanded. You cannot win a championship by removing your only rival from the track on two consecutive race meetings.

As you are such an expert you will also know that Scott wasn't in the same car at the Festival. He only got the money together at the last minute and that is why Cliff Dempsey hired Noel Carey's car for him. The engine came with the car but due to a problem with the carb it was swapped out for one from Stephen Patton from a back up engine. The carb was checked during the event and passed. Exactly the same car, engine and carb were then used at the Walter Hayes 2 weeks later by Patrick McKenna. Do you think he was cheating as well? Did he have any performance advantage???

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Not sure I believe the bit about the engine not been used during the season for the national championship. From what I here and seen had alot of trouble with missed gears during testing which leads to engine changes. I think it is good karma he got caught cheating. Both him and team deserve it for stealing national championship from Rory Butcher. I was at race that weekend and it was crazy the decision made by motorsport Ireland. Scott had Rory pushed tight to grass and interlocked wheels with only two choices brake and let scott drive over his front wheel or hold station and take corner. Scott had all the room and new he had no chance to pass on outside as it always ends in contact at that corner. Have watched racing for years and it is always the same at the second corner in mondello and Scott knew this as he had raced here before. Also would like to point out that mechanical failure cost scott the championship he failed to finish race when car broke down.

Funny that your post as a very similar theme to one posted earlier and now removed by the moderator from another rookie who only posted for the first time today!

I have known Scott Malvern for the whole of his motorsport career; more than 10 years and the one thing he most definitely is not is a CHEAT! Neither for that matter is Cliff Dempsey Racing. This is a mistake, an oversight even perhaps a minor negligence brought about by circumstances but the one thing it most certainly is not is deliberate cheating. Scott rented the car from the team so he put his faith in them. Similarly the team put their faith in the engine and carb supplier which was because this was a replacement carb was from a different supplier to the engine. This is just a most unfortunate set of circumstances but nothing more than that!

If Scott was a well healed young driver like many (but not all) of his peers he wouldn't have been put in this compromising position as he would have been able to use the same car that he had used all season. But he struggled to find the money and it was a very last minute arrangement.Cliff Dempsey to his credit worked very hard to give him the very best car he could such is his regard for Scott.

Scott is a very talented and, those who know him will agree also a very likeable young man. Unfortunately what he also is, is someone who continuously struggles for funding and has done throughout his career but he and his family through sheer hard work and dedication and sacrifice manage to go racing and I'm very glad that he does.

He definitely does not deserve to be ostracised over this and he has already been punished enough for an event he had no control or influence over.


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