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Old 31 May 2003, 23:36 (Ref:616290)   #26
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Old 1 Jun 2003, 00:28 (Ref:616302)   #27
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Looks like Stuck and crew up to fifth per live webfeed a moment ago. Fantastic mix of cars!

I haven't looked at all the info on the ADAC website yet, what sort of preperation levels are used with these cars? Are they running on racing or street tires?
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Old 1 Jun 2003, 00:44 (Ref:616309)   #28
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rdjones should be qualifying in the top 3 on the gridrdjones should be qualifying in the top 3 on the gridrdjones should be qualifying in the top 3 on the gridrdjones should be qualifying in the top 3 on the grid
I also see that dear old Frank Beila is 100th overall and only 41 places behind is 10/10ths member Peter Cate in 141st....

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Old 1 Jun 2003, 01:32 (Ref:616319)   #29
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The BMW team never gives up. Go Hans and Boris.
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Old 1 Jun 2003, 02:55 (Ref:616346)   #30
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How many Hermann Tilke's are there? In position 19 there is car #74 BMW M3 GTR OBERMANN Willi, STETTER Manfred, TILKE Hermann and HULVERSCHEID Paul. But in position 183 there is #9 V8 STAR Jaguar with driver line up including "TILKE Hermann".

Can a driver nominate/drive for more than one car? Is either of these guys that well known F1 track designer? If so which one?
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Old 1 Jun 2003, 04:22 (Ref:616369)   #31
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the guy is the track designer and you can start in more than one car, it's only one person
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Old 1 Jun 2003, 04:25 (Ref:616371)   #32
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Holy ****! He knows this circuit exists, actually races on it, and still designs the utter garbage he's known for?!

Maybe he's not an idiot... Maybe he's just completely bat f***ing insane?!
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Old 1 Jun 2003, 06:32 (Ref:616411)   #33
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So you can start in one car, and then transfer to the other - I guess there must be a limit to the total number of laps or something? Given the V8 STAR Jag only did 39 laps, hopefully he's been allowed to transfer to the BMW which is currently running in about P20.

Yes Lee, he races on the Nordschliefe and last year at the Bathurst 24hrs, yet he designs tracks that are pure...... well I'm sure you can think of more descriptive words than I can

Which probably lends weight to the theory that he could design much better tracks if he was allowed to, but he ends up designing the type that Formula One management ask him to - anyway, getting a bit off topic for the Sports and GT Forum.

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Old 1 Jun 2003, 06:48 (Ref:616418)   #34
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flor should be qualifying in the top 10 on the gridflor should be qualifying in the top 10 on the grid
stucks bmw had to retire at 4 in the morning, boris said had a crash with another car, they were on the 5th position
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Old 1 Jun 2003, 06:51 (Ref:616420)   #35
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So you can start in one car, and then transfer to the other - I guess there must be a limit to the total number of laps or something? Given the V8 STAR Jag only did 39 laps, hopefully he's been allowed to transfer to the BMW which is currently running in about P20.
he should be allowed to switch on the bmw even if the v8 jag wouldn't be out, you can drive more than one car on a regular basis, like arnd meier, he's driving in 2 bmw

i don't know about any limits, but i think last year someone drove 3 cars

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Old 1 Jun 2003, 06:56 (Ref:616421)   #36
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Sorry I forgot about the 1983 temporary arrangement,how did they manage for pits? Must look that one up.Either way they are unikely to use that version again so talk of records is irrelevant.
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Silly me ! And more, I made a mistake in spelling the word !
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Old 1 Jun 2003, 07:20 (Ref:616435)   #38
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the viper has been put 5 laps behind because they had an irregular tank size, their chrysler viper should have had 90 liters, but they renamed the car to dodge viper and used a 120 liter tank
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No access any more I had great time those last weeks here... glad to see the problems have been solve, good luck DSC, and keep on the good job !
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by the way dsf is live again
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Old 1 Jun 2003, 07:30 (Ref:616440)   #41
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It's now an Opel/Audi battle in the same lap (a gap of less than one minute !), with Manuel Reuter in the Opel and Wendlinger/Abt/Werner in the Audi...

Luhr/Collard/Bernhard are fifth, Müller/Müller/Hürtgen/Duez are sixth overall...

It makes : Opel, Audi, Viper, Porsche, Porsche, BMW... a very german classification, except for the last year winner...

Biela is 72th, Stck 148th...

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Old 1 Jun 2003, 07:33 (Ref:616442)   #42
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in the night the gap between the audi and the opel was 0.1seconds on the finish line
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Old 1 Jun 2003, 08:05 (Ref:616462)   #43
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I want the same suspens for the LM race this year : hey, another possible bet for the LM threads !

BTW, who's gonna win the Nurburg ? Opel or Audi ? Audi...

Oh no !!!
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Old 1 Jun 2003, 08:16 (Ref:616469)   #44
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"Carlsonn (what's that ?)"
It's a german Mercedes Tuner.
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Old 1 Jun 2003, 10:07 (Ref:616569)   #45
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Here's the lastest positions after 20 hours:-

1 5 OPEL Astra V8 Coupe
2 1 DODGE Viper
3 8 AUDI Abt Audi TT-R
4 12 PORSCHE 996
5 27 PORSCHE 996
6 43 BMW M3
7 10 BMW
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10 64 BMW M3

Beila is 51st, Peter Cate is 110th
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Old 1 Jun 2003, 11:30 (Ref:616618)   #46
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The Viper is not far from the lead, but it seems a good race for Opel...
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Huh, no, the Dodge stayed too long in the box : Opel, Audi (5 laps behind = 50 minutes !), Porsche, Porsche, the Viper is now fifth ; Reuter, Wendlinger, Luhr, and other great pilots behind, yes, the Nurbugring is alive and kicking !

A little bit more GTs and we could have, with Spa, another of the major rendez-vous !

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really a great race

but its a shame what the officials are doing with the dodge / chrysler viper

with that 5 lap penalty every hope for a possible victory is gone
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Am I seeing correctly?

210 cars!! I can't believe it! What types of cars are allowed in (classes, etc.)? Also, how long is the pit that houses all of these cars? I saw Boris and Hans at Lime Rock last week. Are they racing with the same PTG BMW team, along with Bill Auberlen? Wish I could've seen it!
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really a great race

but its a shame what the officials are doing with the dodge / chrysler viper

with that 5 lap penalty every hope for a possible victory is gone
Penalty ! I thought it was a problem with the car... 5 laps penalty (50 minutes)... huh, it take off a great part of the interrest of the race indeed... was have they done to derserve it ? Killed someone ?
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