**** (sorry small) grids and marshalling

[Tony_J]

It seems only a few years ago that nobody wanted to marshal BARC meetings because they were 'badly organised & ran late', BRSCC was in the ascendency and ran many of the BTCC meetings. Then their bubble burst [I think their relationship with BHL went a bit flat], now BARC is seen as the guiding light amongst the clubs. How long before they take a turn for the worse. Remember The BRDC marshals club and the £5.00 per day? Octagon took over Silverstone and bang went the £5.00. Jim W has the right of it. Be very selective and do only those meetings that positively appeal to you. Stuff club loyalty, it never paid your fuel or buttie bill.

[Garry Holmes]

Could we not setup a league of shame, what are the worst supported championships in terms of numbers. On a more possitive not we could also setup a tope ten of the best?

[Stephen Green]

Not a bad idea Gary. I'll leave that one to you to organise yes?

[Mark Mitchell]

Oulton - BRSCC - Saturday - Focus Cup....three cars entered....one extra turned up!
30 minute race with four cars, that was reduced to 2 cars for around half of that time!
PANTS!

[Novice]

Stephen - Any word back from Grant about the small grids or is he ploughing his way through the entry forms?

[Stephen Green]

I have received an answer from Grant but in fairness it is not one I can publish here. Let's say things are due to change ok?

[Flagman]

Re the Farce-us Cup - its not often that you can get half the grid in the same gravel trap during qualifying

[james tucker]

1 I.Donaldson/ A.Donaldson 0
2 Beighton/Finnemore 0
3 P.Seldon/TBA 0
4 Daniels Msp 0
5 a.allen/d.kempton 0
6 Daniels Msp 0
7 grant bmw 0
8 Daniels Msp
9 croft marcos 0
10 Bo Mcormac 355 0
11 Tim Christmas ##
12 Michael Symons
13 will
14 Kevan Wells 10
15 Harrimax Ltd 0
16 Gareth Pitts honda2000 0
17 arrowpac
18 Cowgill/Lockie 0
19 stephen hurst
20 Groombridge/alfa 0
21 T&G AUTOS 0
22 Howard Redhouse 0
23 RachidBouzouba LOTUS 0
24 Roper/Dreardon
25 Tautz/Quartermain
26 Topcat Racing
27 Topcat RacingMARCOS 0
28 Frazero Racing
29 Frazero Racing 0
30 P.Hands/M.Hands 20
31 R.Archer/TBA 0
32 jason hughes
33 A.Frick/T.Flatt 0
34 hammersley
35 hammersley
36 Mardi Gras J.George 0
37 J.Clonis/D.Streater
38 L.Halliday/TBA 0
39 pitcher honda
40 N.Stephens/TBA 0
41 A.Elliott/J.Warner 0
42 willie moore ##
43 Ace Plant
44 ken lark
45 L.Phillips/TBA
46 P.Knee 0
47 D.Norchi/TBA
48 Bravo Msp
49 Mcinerney msp 0
50 alistair ingliss ##
51 M.Littlejohn/A.Dixon 0
52 Richard Miens 30
53 Robin Ward 355 ferrari
54 Mark John Smith
55 Andy Rouse 0
56
57 robert bishop xx
58 newman/lotus
59 Peter Morss
60 darrian GT3
61 G.James Msp 0
62 Scott Grant
63
64 Chris Hogden
65 Peter Gillatt 0
66 P.Lyodd/G.Povey ##
67 Richard Woore
68 ADVENT Msp
69 Think Automotive 0
70 darrian GT3
71 S.Scuffham 0
72 C. SIMPSON
73 Martin Bell ##
74 WILLIE MOORE 0
75 a.allen
76 Gain
77 Race Tech 0
78 j.tilesley morgan 8
79 Think Automotive no79 ##
80 HAAS AUTO 0
81 k.williams RS500
82 Richard corren Lm500
83 grant porche
84 stinton
85 Bowden
86 raun austin
87 JOHN BURTON
88 tony scarlett
89 PORSCHE993RS
90 simon dickinson
91 m.harding
92 s.harding
93 02078232605porsche ##
94
95 andrew allen
96 damax
97
98
99 Think Automotive no99 0

IT LOOKS 40ISH AT THIS STAGE 0 MEANS ASKED FOR ENTRY
## LOOKING AT IT.........

[Chigley]

James,
What is this list?? I'm guessing it is something to do with the Willhire, but...........??

[james tucker]

YES... SORRY.... WILLHIRE LIST 28TH JUNE

[andrew_powell98]

Originally posted by observer
Oulton - BRSCC - Saturday - Focus Cup....three cars entered....one extra turned up!
30 minute race with four cars, that was reduced to 2 cars for around half of that time!
PANTS!

I have to say it was waste of a good race. If they had at least 8 cars fine, but 4 was a complete joke, so much so that a few people were annoyed. I don't mind marshalling in fact I love it, but if the MSA and clubs can sanction such small grids then they will loose marshalls and speccies. Even in Qualifying we lost 2 cars. That 30 minutes could not have endded any sooner for my liking. It got to the point I did consider Blue flagging the last car just to see what he would do!
Come on please BIGGER GRIDS!

[Dave Brand]

Originally posted by observer
Oulton - BRSCC - Saturday - Focus Cup....three cars entered....one extra turned up!
30 minute race with four cars, that was reduced to 2 cars for around half of that time!
PANTS!

Looks like next Monday's going to be a little bit better:

'Stock Hatch: (3 practices, slowest 52 will go into 2 heats & rest into Final with highest finishers from heats)'.

That'll keep us on our toes!

[Snapper Baz]

Stephen, we are itching to know-maybe just a little taster? Rod and myself would love to know at least!...strange, but about 90% of the grids at Brands over the weekend were full...ahh, I know why...it was BARC!

[Stephen Green]

Barry, it would be unfair to say anything about Grant's e-mail as it was sent in confidence. As I said, it looks like there are changes afoot. The sooner the better in my opinion.

[Rod Birley]

Remember the three car F.3000 race at Brands...that lasted for nearly an hour, with a "safety" car intervention!!!! Guess which club was involved.

[Richard Sneader]

BARC sowed at the weekend how to run and fill a meeting. The weather is something they still have to learn to sort out!. The grids were excellent with quality racing on every race. The crowds were of a good number and the meeting was run well.
Well done agian BARC,
Rich S

[Snapper Baz]

Yes Rod, Martin Pernell (marshal) was seen to run onto the track at Druids and pick an earwig up off the circuit-well nobody else could see what it was!

[ss_collins]

Big grids or amalgamate. especially at a big venue like brands - I think the difference between a SEMSEC Lydden and anyone elses shows massivley - SEMSEC for me - when I finally sort out my car!

[NotLordPercy]

Just what ingrediant is it that causes an organizing club to improve or deteriorate ?? Is there one secret or is it a question of getting the right person in the right place??
Mind you, 750MC always seem to have this 'in spades' and everyone feels better having worked with them, no matter which circuit.
A large part of the 'feel good' factor at BARC is the tireless work of Trevor Jackson ...now there's the right chap in the right place!!

[Rod Birley]

A club that listens to drivers and marshals, also answers questions, deserves to succede. A club that ignores the above and charges more for entries/membership/registration has a problem!!!!!!!!!!!

[speed12]

Talking of small grids, what about the british GT championship with smaller grids and longer races. I just done a 3 hour race at silverstone and nearly fell asleep. I wont be doing another one of the 3 hour races with them again. Bring back the lister and tvr speed12 and all the other ones that had to be dropped because of the regulations and make it a better race.