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Old 3 May 2017, 10:25 (Ref:3730729)   #1
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80 emails from teams dobbing on others??

Far out!

Does it suggest a new solution is needed for Judges of Fact?
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Old 3 May 2017, 16:07 (Ref:3730770)   #2
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[url=http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/sport/motor-sport/v8-supercars/supercars-teams-warned-to-stop-dobbing-on-rivals-after-flurry-of-titfortat-tattletales/news-story/71570dd1b88ab0746c17e821c65c72f8]
Does it suggest a new solution is needed for Judges of Fact?
Shouldn't need a new solution, just common sense.
If they introduce a new penalty like the pit entrance shemozzle at PI; then either ensure there is a physical judge of fact on the spot; or a not-for-TV camera that is monitored during the race; or better still, both.
I don't like dobbing, but it seems to be more prevalent in all forms of sport and society than in the past.
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Old 3 May 2017, 21:39 (Ref:3730852)   #3
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I wonder which team got the ball rolling and fired off the first email? Given #5 & #97 were right behind #17, you'd hope it wasn't PRA or 888...

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Old 3 May 2017, 21:47 (Ref:3730855)   #4
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all i want is consitancy. Accepted that it was clean slate this year. But 3 rounds in and im not getting consitency

Its time for a sin bin.

And i also like a NASCAR rule where you go tot he back of the field under safety car for penalties
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Old 3 May 2017, 21:55 (Ref:3730859)   #5
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I wonder which team got the ball rolling and fired off the first email? Given #5 & #97 were right behind #17, you'd hope it wasn't PRA or 888...

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If the teams can see the rule infractions and report it, what system/process/procedure/people does Supercar need to put in place so these things are reported through official channels, not via whinging, hoping to disadvantage another's mistake?

Its spinning wheels in stops, unsafe releases, blend line infringements, kerb hopping, baulking... lots of stuff that shifts into the discretionary space, yetvwhen the teev picks it up, it gets acted upon
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Old 3 May 2017, 22:00 (Ref:3730861)   #6
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If the teams can see the rule infractions and report it, what system/process/procedure/people does Supercar need to put in place so these things are reported through official channels, not via whinging, hoping to disadvantage another's mistake?

Its spinning wheels in stops, unsafe releases, blend line infringements, kerb hopping, baulking... lots of stuff that shifts into the discretionary space, yetvwhen the teev picks it up, it gets acted upon
how many judge of facts would be needed to cover of every indiscretion.

TV provides evidence so that is all that is needed. bang penalty.

Its an advantage to the teams at the back of the grid, less likely to be picked up and thus get a good result
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Old 3 May 2017, 22:12 (Ref:3730863)   #7
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how many judge of facts would be needed to cover of every indiscretion.

TV provides evidence so that is all that is needed. bang penalty.

Its an advantage to the teams at the back of the grid, less likely to be picked up and thus get a good result
Put cameras in every garage...
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Put cameras in every garage...
how many and whereand at what Cost$.

Need both sides of the car, need an overhead camera. The infrastructure just isnt there

sometimes you just need a cone on an end of a line to fix things
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Old 3 May 2017, 23:03 (Ref:3730870)   #9
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Put cameras in every garage...
There have been judges of fact in each garage for a very long time now.

It's not unusual for teams to question or protest other team actions, sounds like it reached epidemic proportions at PI - I expect due to the total SNAFU of how the pit lane entry penalties were handled.
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It probably requires a complete review of all of the sporting regulations to determine if they are really necessary to begin with.

And then those that are required need to be written in a clear and concise manner in order to be easily understood by the teams, officials and the fans.
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80 emails from teams dobbing on others??

Far out!

Does it suggest a new solution is needed for Judges of Fact?
Yep, an email address that cannot be replied to.

And, an if you dob in another team, then at the end of the race your cars video is gone over with a fine tooth comb to see if you are holier than thou.
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Old 4 May 2017, 09:48 (Ref:3730944)   #12
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all i want is consitancy. Accepted that it was clean slate this year. But 3 rounds in and im not getting consitency
Not getting or giving consistency either
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Old 4 May 2017, 11:13 (Ref:3730962)   #13
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Not getting or giving consistency either

Were you expecting anything other than inconsistent inconsistencies from this poster ?
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Yep, an email address that cannot be replied to.

And, an if you dob in another team, then at the end of the race your cars video is gone over with a fine tooth comb to see if you are holier than thou.
Shouldn't they all be subject to that kind of scrutiny, all the time?
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My understanding is that they are not gone over with a fine-tooth comb, as often as you'd think.

Hence why compliance penalties arise, covering several events. They just hammer teams for every event since the last thorough inspection.
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